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Texas: Electric customers could pay dearly for blackouts
wfaa.com ^ | 2/3/2011 | JASON WHITELY

Posted on 02/12/2011 11:49:58 AM PST by dragnet2

DALLAS — Customers who are not locked into a contract with their retail electric provider could end up with much higher bills after rolling blackouts in many parts of the state on Wednesday.

"The people on variable rate plans are probably going to see the worst of it," said Tom Smith, state director of the watchdog group Public Citizen, Inc. "Their bills are going to go up to reflect the very high prices that were paid on Wednesday morning."

Electricity gets bought and sold daily.

Retail providers like TXU buy extra wholesale electricity from power plants scattered around Texas.

On most days, Smith said, providers pay about $45 per megawatt hour. The Electric Reliability Counci of Texas said a single megawatt can power 200 homes during extreme temperatures.

But during the rolling blackouts on Wednesday morning, the price of wholesale electricity skyrocketed. Power plants charged providers the maximum: $3,000 a megawatt hour.

That's 66 times higher than usual.

Customers without contracts are billed based on the fluctuating market prices. That means next month's bill could be big.

Does that mean $50 to $100 more? Smith said it's hard to tell.

"How much will depend on how cold the rest of February is."

It will also hinge on whether the state faces more rolling blackouts.

Customers who are locked into a contract will see a much smaller increase in their next contract, though it will likely be unidentifiable, experts said.

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To: apoliticalone

I do not know the situation in PA so I cannot comment on the specific causes of your rate increases. In the long run, market control of energy production under reasonable (cost benefit considerations) environmental constraints will result in lower rates and improved service. The problem with deregulation is that politicians have put onerous constraints on the industry. In Texas, environmentalists and politicians persuaded the utility commission to cancel plans to build coal fired plants and substitute wind power with far flung transmission lines. Political control is the cause of the blackouts, not market forces.


21 posted on 02/12/2011 12:19:45 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: dragnet2
I am one of those in Texas with a variable rate.

I'm sure I'll take a bit of a hit on the rate for this past month. But with gas heat our electric usage is nothing compared to August.

My variable rate is tied to the price of gas. In general, the amount of shale gas coming onto the market has saved me a lot over the last few years.

I'll accept the hit this month.

22 posted on 02/12/2011 12:22:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: kittymyrib
The Texas Utility Commission should have been fired the day after the black-outs for not doing their job. The power plants that froze up because of lax winterizing should have to pay for the outrageous rate hike. The customers should not have to pay for the negligence of these money grubbers when all the consumers did was try to keep their elderly and children warm.

Texas has a free market utility system. Customers pay lower rates because they don't award idle plants. No idle plants, no backups. You are posting from emotion rather than from facts.

23 posted on 02/12/2011 12:22:17 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac
"Power plants charged providers the maximum: $3,000 a megawatt hour."

Who sets this maximum?

24 posted on 02/12/2011 12:23:35 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: thackney
My variable rate is tied to the price of gas. In general, the amount of shale gas coming onto the market has saved me a lot over the last few years. I'll accept the hit this month.

Finally some one that posts the truth!

25 posted on 02/12/2011 12:23:39 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: James C. Bennett
Who sets this maximum?

The free market.

26 posted on 02/12/2011 12:24:31 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: thackney
I'll accept the hit

I would guess, you have no choice in the matter.

27 posted on 02/12/2011 12:25:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I should have said, I won’t grumble about it, at least not out loud.

I gambled a while ago and talked my wife into accepting the risk. It has been good for us, even if we pay double rates this month.


28 posted on 02/12/2011 12:28:02 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: dragnet2

The jug eared Kenyan has been denying Texas permits for coal burning power plants. This falls under sabotage by a traitor.


29 posted on 02/12/2011 12:30:02 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: grobdriver

Stop drilling for oil and natural gas, close coal mines and coal generating plants, mothball nuclear plant construction projects, build windmills which freeze and solar generated electricity panels which go to sleep at the most critical time....this seems to be the so-called “green” plan and what does it get us....big, no that should be enormous, energy bills. How’s that “hope and change” working out? It is like being in a nightmare dream and not being able to wake up.


30 posted on 02/12/2011 12:31:51 PM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: dragnet2
I know this winter has been very cold but I don't recall electric power blackouts due to excessive demand in previous winters. And it's hard to believe there's more load on the power grid on a cold day, when a most folks heat with natural gas or propane, than on a hot summer day when everyone is running A/C. Something's not adding up.

I've read that the blackouts were due to wind power plants not producing much electrical power during the freeze. If this winter was a harbinger of a new little ice age, we'd better get cracking on new nuke plants pronto!

31 posted on 02/12/2011 12:32:35 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: dennisw
China is expanding by leaps and bounds....Here in the U.S. were having trouble keeping the power on....

None of this is a mistake....Like our lawless borders, and destruction of our economy... it's all by design

32 posted on 02/12/2011 12:33:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Menehune56
I know this winter has been very cold but I don't recall electric power blackouts due to excessive demand in previous winters. And it's hard to believe there's more load on the power grid on a cold day, when a most folks heat with natural gas or propane, than on a hot summer day when everyone is running A/C. Something's not adding up.

1. Some plants were not properly winterized leading to shutdowns.
2. More plants have maintenance outages in the winter.
3. NG plants did not get their supplies due to diverting to higher usage residential customers trying to keep their houses warm.
Reduced electrical output meant less power to NG pumping reducing NG supplies.

33 posted on 02/12/2011 12:35:47 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: dragnet2
I would guess, you have no choice in the matter.

You guess wrong.

34 posted on 02/12/2011 12:37:11 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Menehune56

Recent Blackouts in Texas were caused by multiple plants knocked offline due to the cold, combined with multiple plants down for scheduled maintenance, due to the typically low peak demand.

But a heck of a lot of space heaters get pulled out and plugged in when a place like Houston gets to the mid 20’s.


35 posted on 02/12/2011 12:37:44 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: SeeSac
3. NG plants did not get their supplies due to diverting to higher usage residential customers trying to keep their houses warm.

Do you have a link to any information on that? I didn't see those.

Reduced electrical output meant less power to NG pumping reducing NG supplies.

Nearly all of out Natural Gas supply is Natural Gas powered. Only a few location use electric drive compression.

36 posted on 02/12/2011 12:42:59 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: SeeSac

You would think that the power execs would be a little bit smarter on how they handle this. Charging folks $3000 per hour might be allowed, but if the result of doing so is that the commission reduces the maximum to $100 or $200 per KWH, aren’t you cutting off your nose to spite your face?

But I guess top management at these power companies is just like top management everywhere, including government. Not the brightest bulbs.


37 posted on 02/12/2011 12:45:55 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: dragnet2

I thought this scam was ended with Enron?


38 posted on 02/12/2011 1:00:24 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: SeeSac
Texas has the most deregulated, free market electric power grid in the nation.
And they were the only state without electricity when needed most. Also, unless things have changed, not all of Texas is deregulated.
39 posted on 02/12/2011 1:18:05 PM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Brilliant
You would think that the power execs would be a little bit smarter on how they handle this. Charging folks $3000 per hour might be allowed, but if the result of doing so is that the commission reduces the maximum to $100 or $200 per KWH, aren’t you cutting off your nose to spite your face?

Only, they aren't charging folks $3000 per (kw) hour.

40 posted on 02/12/2011 1:19:18 PM PST by SeeSac
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