[tbw2]

The quotes about "Islamic civilization" in Bagdad and Alexandria, Egypt as centers of learning ignores the fact that both cities had this role for millennium BEFORE Islam. However, both declined in prominence after Islam. Badgad took a few decades (after Muslim conquest). The famous library of Alexandria was deliberately burned by Muslim conquerors.

In short, there is NO Muslim civilization. It is only the claiming of the heritage the prior civilizations had as Islamic as it drives them down to the dust-bin of history.

[allmendream]

Well perhaps it was just the times then, but there was a flowering (at least by contrast to how backwards everywhere else was) of Arab civilization in Baghdad Damascus and Alexandria, but mostly as a co-opting and unification of these great centers of learning.

Much scholarship was also done in their civilization by non-Arabs, including many Jews. Making it ironic that in the modern day they extol the bygone era yet they wish to expunge one of the sources of any claim to greatness of their civilization - that they adopted the learning and practices of older civilized people and allowed them a place in civil society as scholars and doctors and merchants - civilization.

The quote I provided was said as the Library at Alexandria burned.