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Unions want to overturn election result
jsonline ^ | Feb. 16, 2011 | Patrick McIlheran

Posted on 02/17/2011 1:04:04 PM PST by BenLurkin

The public-sector union tantrums, meant to make lawmakers wobble, have an inadvertent message for the rest of us: Voters can vote all they want. We can elect a cheapskate governor and a Legislature to match. But come the moment, unions will have the last, loudest word.

They'll have it if takes marches. They'll have it if it takes what amounts to an illegal strike, with so many Madison teachers calling in sick Wednesday that the district closed schools. If it takes showing up for a we-know-where-your-family-is protest on Walker's Wauwatosa lawn while he was at work, the unions are sure they can outshout any election result.

This is exactly why Walker is right to limit the unions' power over government spending.

Walker, remember, is not removing unions' fundamental power to bargain for wages. He is demanding that state workers put 5.8% of their wages toward retirement and that they cover 12.6% of their health care premiums, which would still have them paying more than $100 less a month than the average schmoe. He is also proposing that elected officials determine the shape of employee benefits without having to bargain them, and this as much as the added cost has unions crying "unfair."

They insist this is the end of unionization in government, something to which they have as much right, they say, as anyone else.

But they miss a bedrock difference. Unions in the private sector are a way of organizing private interests, those of employees, against other private interests, those of a company's owners, for economic gain and for protection against unfairness. In government, workers are already protected against unfairness by civil service laws, and Walker has supported expanding those. Economically, government unions pit a private interest, that of employees, against the public's interest, that of taxpayers and voters.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bustunions; communistunions; democrats; liberalfascism; liberals; unioncorruption; unions; unionviolence; walker; wisconsinshowdown

1 posted on 02/17/2011 1:04:07 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
You wanna really piss off a public-sector Union member (ESPECIALLY one of the Big Bosses), just tell them they are YOUR employee, and YOU will decide what their job is worth!

They crap their bloomers every time......all hat; no cattle.

2 posted on 02/17/2011 1:07:45 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: BenLurkin

Public service unions are a form of “double representation”. It would be one thing if they formed a lobby group or political organization/PAC that was voluntary to be a part of. However, it is mandatory to join a union to get many state jobs here.


3 posted on 02/17/2011 1:08:21 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: BenLurkin

The Unions can’t bully reality which always trumps pretend. There just isn’t the money to carry their worthless rear ends in the manner to which they have become accustomed. Period.


4 posted on 02/17/2011 1:11:49 PM PST by BeckB
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To: BenLurkin

Pat is one of the ONLY worthwhile things about the Journal Sentinel any more.

Wait until this little Democrat run out costs about 1500 or more of these scumbags their jobs. If they don’t take the concessions and the Democrats keep this up he can just get rid of 1500 union jobs and end the problem.

The Demonrats are so very very stupid in Wisconsin, but then again there is a large constituency of very very stupid people too.


5 posted on 02/17/2011 1:14:52 PM PST by chichipow
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To: BeckB

They’re lucky I’m not in charge ,, I’d force convert their pensions into 403(b)’s and make sure their investment options were limited to state issued bond funds or cash, if they’re lucky I’d allow bond funds from states that aren’t broke.


6 posted on 02/17/2011 1:16:41 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: BenLurkin
"Oh you can't scare me....I'm stickin' with the Union....I'm stickin' with the Union"--Pete Seger?

Or how about this one, when clothes were made in USA, until the Unions priced themselves out of the market.......(1978, when they all paid their Union Dues, and prices kept rising

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO7VUklDlQw&feature=related

7 posted on 02/17/2011 1:17:07 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: BenLurkin

the governor should fire the lot of them, and replace them with people who would be glad to have the jobs.


8 posted on 02/17/2011 1:18:10 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: BenLurkin

Unions are the Storm Troopers of socialism.


9 posted on 02/17/2011 1:19:27 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Your refusing to accept the facts doesn't change the facts. Matt Dillon)
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To: BenLurkin

The union thugs “know where my family is??” Well they would also find out where my AR 15 is!!


10 posted on 02/17/2011 1:23:59 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: BenLurkin

Per Rush:

Obama is bussing in his “Organizing for America” goons from out of state to thwart the will of the people in Wisconson while Senate DemocRATS fee out of state to avoid voting on the bill.

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php?splash=false

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DNC playing role in Wisconsin protests
Politico ^ | 2/17/11 | Ben Smith

Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:53:46 PM by chickadee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2675398/posts

The Democratic National Committee’s Organizing for America arm — the remnant of the 2008 Obama campaign — is playing an active role in organizing protests against Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s attempt to strip most public employees of collective bargaining rights.

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11 posted on 02/17/2011 1:31:14 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: traditional1
Here is an anecdote that I posted last spring that may be of interest to you.

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I was in Spokane, WA, watching NCAA tournament basketball last weekend. The subject of the healthcare vote came up in our section on Sunday during the first half of the Michigan State-Maryland game. The guy sitting next to us happened to be an SEIU member who worked for the government, and he was pro-ObamaCare. People around him found out, and it ended up with the SEIU guy having to leave his seat because of the heckling he was getting from everybody else in our section. One guy behind me even said to the government worker that he contributed nothing to society, and that he was a leech who was paid by our taxes. This was after SEIU guy's wife said “honey, don't listen to them. They're BUSINESSMEN.”

She said it with disgust, and that's when things got pretty ugly.

There is a lot of anger over Obama and the Democrats, and I think we're getting near a tipping point.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2477787/posts?page=33#33

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Things are only worse now, I imagine.

12 posted on 02/17/2011 1:32:50 PM PST by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: Matchett-PI

When participants in government — elected officials — work to undermine the legislative process, our Republic has come to an end.


13 posted on 02/17/2011 1:34:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: traditional1

Another UNION Hope and Change thing that worked real well Florida East Coast Railway strike from 1963-1977. Courts said they could hire new workers. Side note; company had to eventually stop passenger service, because it did not pay!
Go, RICK SCOTT


14 posted on 02/17/2011 1:48:52 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe the article is incorrect. I may be wrong and this could be happening in New Jersey but I believe the bill is pushing for the fact that wages are tied to some inflationary measure.


15 posted on 02/17/2011 4:31:54 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Matchett-PI
There's a rally to support Gov. Walker, this Saturday, Noon to 3, in Madison.
16 posted on 02/17/2011 4:47:18 PM PST by rabidralph ((Mu)Barak must go!)
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