[muawiyah]

You'd still need to have the actuaries say in public just exactly how many individuals will die each month during the build up as well as the pay out.

People really love to hear that stuff!

[sgtyork]

Yes, I’m sure that all those pension-coveting teachers will be dissuaded from planning the first day of their retirement at 55 by those cold hard facts.

“There are some excellent teachers who want an early-out,” Parker said. “I know these teachers personally, and I’m sorry to even hear them talking about retirement.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/26/AR2008032602948.html