Time to Reconsider Partition For Bosnia

European Institute ^ | 2/25/2011 | Ted Galen Carpenter

[Mmogamer]

Gee why not destroy the Serbs and be done? Let’s support jihadists Bosnians and cut our own throats.

[runninglips]

If the U.S. is ever stabbed in the back, it will be a Serb that deserves to do it. We have treated these people like dirt. They help us during WW 2, we reward them with a sell out to the Eastern Bloc.....under the thumb of the Croat/Muslims that stabbed them in the back, that were considered WORSE than the Nazi SS. Then, we backstabbed them again by siding with the Muslims and Croats and bombing their civilian population, destroying their bridges, and then melding them into another nation that wants them both dead and gone.

[PieterCasparzen]

A 2nd generation American Serb worked for me, set me straight. I was not paying attention to much news way back then. You’ve got it right. Clinton had us on the wrong side. It’s too, too bad. But if we get a good Congress and President, we could get back on the right path.

[mewykwistmas]

Never going to happen, no matter how much water for Serbs this guy carries.

Three reasons why:
1. Srpska's today territory was with about 48% Bosniaks pre war, and Serbs were found to have committed genocide on Bosniaks.
2. If the Bosniaks are left alone, they'll become an Islamic emirate. No one wants that.
3. Croatia doesn't want Serbia on that long and hard to defend border. Bosnia will serve as a buffer. In fact Croatia threatened to wipe Srpska out if they declared independence (specifically forbidden by Dayton.)
Map for reference

4. As a bonus, no one is itching to have a strong Serbia, certainly not Germany, US, UK, Italy or France.

[mewykwistmas]

“There is, of course, no guarantee that Belgrade would endorse such a comprehensive package of territorial adjustments. “

Ha! Serbia has been told: Kosovo or EU and if you choose Kosovo you get none. They chose EU of course but are trying to keep the North of Kosovo, getting Srpska would be 1000 times better for them, so who is he kidding.

[Chiltepe]

Is it any surprise that Clinton, the rest of the Democrats, and yellow journalism led us into that pointless adventure? I still remember leftists both here and in Europe beating their chests and shouting in mad delight that we had involved ourselves in a war (well, Bosnia and Kosovo) where we had no economic, strategic, or cultural interest. That was their talking point, and they were PROUD of it!

[JSDude1]

The damage Clinton did in that conflice will never be undone, here’s how:

Firstly even if we did get a Pro-Serb President (which I would like to see), and did all these suggested-the other one, and far reaching policy that Clinton intiated was to make an ENEMY of Russia-Remember back then Russia was a ~free~ truely Democratic Republic, Yeltson was our ally, untill Clinton made him an enemy over Bosnia & Sebia (Yeltson even had a pro-American vice P.M. which is what Putin took over to gain power), If we hadn’t interfered would Putin have become their new President/P.M? would he be our ally, and not have turned against the WEST?

That my friends was Clinton’s worst political move (foreign policy wise), 2nd was treacherously selling military and other secrects to Chicom) in exchange for funding his re-election strategy!

[Alberta's Child]

You’ve got it right. Clinton had us on the wrong side. It’s too, too bad. But if we get a good Congress and President, we could get back on the right path.

There's no way any Congress or any President would "get back on the right path" on this issue. The U.S./NATO policy in the Balkans is a non-partisan affair. I had the whole "neo-con" wing of the GOP picked as a bunch of frauds back in the late 1990s when they were clamoring publicly for the Clinton Administration to take military action against Serbia. These people are nothing but a bunch of big-government globalists who see the creation of weak quasi-states as an integral part of our foreign policy.

[Alberta's Child]

See my Post #9. This goes way beyond the Clinton administration. Many of the strongest supporters of an anti-Serbia U.S. policy ended up in key positions in the second Bush administration, too.

[runninglips]

My brother in law was born in Yugoslavia. He is a nice enough guy, and has fit into the family for over 25 years. He is a Croatian, and HATES Serbs. His family from that area were constantly calling and telling him of the atrocities committed by the Serbs, and of how the U.S./UN/NATO needed to come in a “fix” things. I too was ignorant, until I did a little online investigating. The copious amounts of documentation on WW 2 shocked me deeply. I asked my B.I.L. about some of it, and his vitriol also seemed out of place. Essentially, he made excuses for being Nazi out of the need to fight the Russians. He was born in ‘38, and his family actually was alive and active during the war. Any further personal inquiries by me will not happen though. The hatred for the Serb “race” is not different to that of the Muslims for the Jews.

[PieterCasparzen]

IMHO...

It’s just very politically correct to oppose any supposed “strong man”; it’s an easy stance to take, whether one is Dem establishment or Repub establishment. The establishment has not yet returned to publicly acknowledging the Judeo-Christian roots of western civilization and the war that islam is waging on the west. Once they do, any western nation that resists will truthfully be understood as resisting an invasion.

Also, of course, Serbia has ties to Russia from back when Russia was a Christian empire. Since conservatives can get caught up in being anti-Soviet, it’s easy for them to dismiss Serbia out of hand as an enemy.

Instead, they should be focusing on the Christian aspect; Christians and conservatives should be actually helping Russia return to being a Christian nation.

[wonders]

Partition ping.

[Bokababe]

[Bokababe]

Thanks for the heads-up, wonders!

[Honorary Serb]

YES to dissolution of the fake state of “Bosnia”!!!!! See my tagline, which I’ve had for years!

A strong Orthodox Christian Serbia is good for America, good for Europe, and good for Russia!

[eleni121]

The time is now to undo the wrongs and horrors perpetrated by NATO and its NWO/Third Way Socialist and Muslim allies.

Let freedom come back to the Balkans. Dissolve Soviet Bosnia.

[eleni121]

You are way off the planet — in some zombie land of ideas. You seem to be basing your conjecture on a narrow historical sliver of “divide and conquer” — very anachronistic and obsolete. IN the long run it didn't work anyway ... far better to cut off the gangrenous part by isolating and treating the islamic infection than to “live” it.

Seeing what a mess that secular increasingly muslim Europe have made of things — all Christians including “Catholic” Croatians should all be rooting for a stronger Orthodox Srpska and Serbia.

[DTA]

>>>>If we hadn’t interfered would Putin have become their new President/P.M? <<<<<

Bingo. It was a classic case of "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory".

America won the Cold War. Russia was moribund and Russians dreamt of having an American dream one day. India and China were regional rivals. America ruled the world.

All this changed with U.S. attack on Serbia in March 1999. Russians were able to hear with their own ears and see with their own eyes American propaganda on sattellite channels. It was no different than what Communists told them what Americans are supposedly like. Half-drunk Ruskies woke up. American dream was no more. American reality kicked in. Putin rode on that wave. Without American attack on Serbia, his chances were zilch.

During the bombing of Serbia, India went nuclear, just to show that her trust to American fairy tales is no more.

And China have had it enough when her embassy was bombed.

That moment was defining moment of the history of 21 century, the beginning of decline of American supremacy.

Neocon scammers planned Siberian wealth in American pockets within a decade. It turned out that Siberian wealth remained in Russian pockets and American wealth ended in Chinese pockets, also within a decade.

According to her own account, Hitlery persuaded Bent One to bomb Serbia.

Victory has many fathers but defeat is an orphan. This defeat has it's mother.

[montyspython]

Another history revisionist troll on a Balkan thread.