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To: jamese777

I challenged you quite a long time ago to present authority for your contention that objections were to be submitted in advance of the Session. Such a requirement would be nonsensical - how would it be possible for issues that arose during the session? There is no such requirement and you have no authority for the proposition. That argument is not going to improve the quality of your homework assignment.

The fact that no member stood on a point of order (which you should recognize contradicts your argument above) only goes to the fraud I referred to. As a minor wrinkle, I do believe there is the possibility that there may have been some Republicans who were not on the reservation who advised Cheney that if he called for objection, they fully intended to respond as a matter of honor or oath. If Cheney had not feared such a response, he might have conformed with the (”shall call”) statute.

Let me remind you that several months ago I advised you that even if you were a tall, attractive redhead in a black cocktail dress, we were not going to dance anymore. Now I will put a sharper point on it: I try to avoid intellectually dishonest people.


66 posted on 02/28/2011 8:10:57 PM PST by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: frog in a pot

I challenged you quite a long time ago to present authority for your contention that objections were to be submitted in advance of the Session. Such a requirement would be nonsensical - how would it be possible for issues that arose during the session? There is no such requirement and you have no authority for the proposition. That argument is not going to improve the quality of your homework assignment.

The fact that no member stood on a point of order (which you should recognize contradicts your argument above) only goes to the fraud I referred to. As a minor wrinkle, I do believe there is the possibility that there may have been some Republicans who were not on the reservation who advised Cheney that if he called for objection, they fully intended to respond as a matter of honor or oath. If Cheney had not feared such a response, he might have conformed with the (”shall call”) statute.

Let me remind you that several months ago I advised you that even if you were a tall, attractive redhead in a black cocktail dress, we were not going to dance anymore. Now I will put a sharper point on it: I try to avoid intellectually dishonest people.


So you really think that “in writing” means that the members of Congress sit there while the joint session is in progress and write out their objections? Is that really your argument?

In the two plus years since that Joint Session was held, has ANY member of Congress EVER said one word about being deprived by Vice President Cheney of the opportunity to object to the certification of the vote of the Electoral College? Can you name a Senator or Representative who has stated that they would have submitted a written objection if they had been given the opportunity?

The ONLY order of business for the Joint Session is to count and certify the vote of the Electoral College and to entertain any WRITTEN objections to the certification. There is no debate, there is no discussion. The process of the session is formal. Any issues concerning certification or objections are raised and developed in the period from the Monday after the second Wednesday of December when the Electoral College actually votes in state capitals around the nation until weeks later when the Joint Session actually occurs in January.

I think that your decision to take your ball and go home is a very wise decision on your part.


73 posted on 02/28/2011 9:12:37 PM PST by jamese777
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To: frog in a pot

IIRC Nancy Pelosi suddenly jumped out from her seat and created an deafening applause and cheering loudly IMMEDIATELY in the chamber, which lasted several minutes, before Cheney even was finish speaking, and thereby covering her own ASS, hmmm!!!


110 posted on 03/04/2011 7:12:55 AM PST by danamco (-)
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