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Coupon Users Furious Over Proposed Tax (New CT dem Gov want to tax EVERYTHING)
Courant.com ^ | February 27, 2011 | N/A

Posted on 02/28/2011 11:42:57 AM PST by raybbr

HARTFORD (AP) — Devotees of coupons and discounts are angry at Gov. Dannel P. Malloy's proposal to slap a new sales tax on the original price of a good or service rather than the discounted price.

Ending the sales tax exemptions for coupons, discounts and automobile trade-ins are among tax exemptions Malloy has proposed ending to help close the state's projected $3.5 billion deficit. For example, the tax would be imposed on the $30 price of a blouse, not the $15 sales price.

Gina Juliano learned firsthand after she lost her job in 2009 as a vice principal in the Hartford Public Schools that coupons and sales can help a family make ends meet. She cut her budget for food, toiletries, pet supplies and paper goods from between $200 and $300 a week to $50. [Sample Our Free Connecticut Business Midday Newsletter]

"I turned to coupons because I would have had to lose my house and everything. I wouldn't have been able to survive," said Juliano, who now writes a blog in Connecticut called Gina's Kokopelli that tracks coupons, sales and bargains for other shoppers.

Like many avid couponers, Juliano pays little or nothing for items after matching coupons with sales. For example, she recently used a $3 coupon to buy a bottle of Gain fabric softener that was on sale for $2.99 at Rite Aid.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: dannelmalloy; fairtax; salestax
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To: DoughtyOne
I see Connecticut going DEP RED in 2012.
61 posted on 02/28/2011 4:48:05 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Good. Glad to hear it SandRat.


62 posted on 02/28/2011 4:51:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Can hardly wait to hear my Uber Lib Broters respone to this. Think he’ll sing a non-Lib tune after he talks to his wife & his Daughter.


63 posted on 02/28/2011 4:54:44 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: The Working Man
So, how hard is it to drive to the next door state and purchase a large ticket item?

If you do that in Wisconsin, you still must pay a use tax to the State of Wisconsin.
64 posted on 02/28/2011 5:27:23 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: raybbr
Devotees of coupons and discounts are angry at Gov. Dannel P. Malloy's proposal to slap a new sales tax on the original price of a good or service rather than the discounted price.

Look for the union label.
65 posted on 02/28/2011 8:37:09 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: raybbr
For example, the tax would be imposed on the $30 price of a blouse, not the $15 sales price.

Taxing people on money they never spent. What a racket.

66 posted on 02/28/2011 8:49:02 PM PST by csense
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It would be a little odd that two people would buy the same jar of peanut butter and one would pay more sales tax than the other, simply becuase the other was smart enough to get a coupon (which saved them money on the purchase).

Well, I could flip the question around and ask you why I should be taxed on money I never spent, after all, that is what a sales tax is, isn't it? A fee charged by the government on the total dollar amount collected for goods and/or services provided. If, because of my coupons, I hand over $10.00 cash to your $15.00, why should i pay a tax on money that was never collected from the merchant by me?

67 posted on 02/28/2011 9:04:27 PM PST by csense
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To: raybbr

This is one of the more insane plans I’ve heard proposed. I hope it doesn’t come to CA.


68 posted on 02/28/2011 11:53:55 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: PJ-Comix

Couponing ping


69 posted on 03/01/2011 7:19:26 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I am NOT opposed to the idea of taxing the “sale price” of an item, before the coupons are applied. The coupons are a way for the manufacturer to give you back some money, so the “price” of the item is still the same. It would be a little odd that two people would buy the same jar of peanut butter and one would pay more sales tax than the other, simply because the other was smart enough to get a coupon (which saved them money on the purchase).

The article doesn't say one way or the other, but will food now be taxed in CT? It wasn't in the past unless it was considered "junk food". If so, this goes way beyond the coupon thing.

I'm so disgusted by this state, we continually elect hard core progressives, and some in this state even consider Lieberman a conservative for God's sake.

This new budget proposed by Malloy goes 180 degrees against the trend in the rest of the country. Even NY and NJ are starting to get it, but not CT. To paraphrase Davy Crockett, The state of CT can go to hell, I'm moving to Texas.

70 posted on 03/01/2011 8:44:54 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Catsrus
Close. She was Linda McMahon running for US Senate to take over Chris Dodd's old seat (another brilliant contribution to DC from the people of CT). She lost to Blumenthal. He's another beacon of progressivism. Back in 2009 he was threatening to sue the AIG execs in NY over their bonuses. Here's the link to a debate he had with Glenn Beck
71 posted on 03/01/2011 9:00:03 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb

>>The state of CT can go to hell, I’m moving to Texas.

If I didn’t own a house, I’d have packed my bags already. Businesses and people are going to leave in droves. We’re making RI look sane, which is saying something.


72 posted on 03/01/2011 9:05:30 AM PST by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: SandRat
I see Connecticut going DEP RED in 2012.

I wouldn't bet the ranch on that one. CT in some ways makes MA look conservative. We had Chris "Countrywide" Dodd in there for years, when he was found to be a crook we promptly elected an even bigger progressive with Dick Blumenthal, who as AG never met a company he didn't want to sue.

73 posted on 03/01/2011 9:11:01 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: SandRat

He may... ;^)


74 posted on 03/01/2011 9:21:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: YankeeReb

I agree. And to think CT as a colony was founded by Puritans from the Mass Bay Colony because they thought people there were getting too lenient.


75 posted on 03/01/2011 9:30:48 AM PST by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: csense

Well,they could require the manufacturer to pay the sales tax to the store for the money the store collects from them for the coupon.

I mean, that would be rather unworkable, and I’m guessing it would change the value of coupons the manufacturer was willing to provide.

I think my distinction was that if a store and a customer decide on the price of an item, THAT is the value of the item, and is what should be taxed.

But if there is a 3rd-party payer who is helping cover the cost of the item, it makes more sense that the government would tax that true cost of the item, not just the reduced cost after the other costs are covered by the 3rd party.

If the person behind you in line gave $10 to help you pay for your purchase, you wouldn’t argue that you should pay $10 worth less of sales tax because YOU didn’t spend the money yourself; you’d expect the total sales tax to remain the same. Coupons are somewhat like that other person paying for part of your purchases, rather than the store reducing your price.

Of course, that is only sometimes true; the stores also have coupons which reduce your price. But they aren’t much different than the store issuing you loyalty dollars like Walgreens — I’m pretty sure that if you buy things using your register bucks (or whatever they are called) you still pay tax on the purchase price, even though the store actually paid for your purchase with the fake money.

I know poeple dislike taxes; I dislike high taxes, but understand that government does need to collect money for the services it provides. I think deciding to tax the PRICE of an item, rather than deducting the value of coupons, is a rational choice to make, one that will make the tax “more fair” because it will be applied more evenly across the citizens of the state.

But taxing a manufacturer’s “retail price” rather than the actual price the store sells the item for seems quite different to me. Why not simply raise the tax rate, rather than set an artificial price? (It’s like those states that collect property tax, and you know that they game the “value” of the house along with the “tax rate”, because all that matters is the total collected, not the rate, or what they say your house is worth).

I don’t live in Connecticutt, and in the end the voters of that state can decide if they like this way of being taxed or not, and can inform their representatives accordingly.


76 posted on 03/01/2011 10:01:52 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rawhide

LOL!


77 posted on 03/01/2011 6:09:20 PM PST by okay
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To: raybbr

Okay Gov, is this your bright idea or should the credit go to one of our state’s fine, out of touch, union members? Do you hear that? It’s the sound of property values plummeting further.


78 posted on 03/01/2011 6:09:55 PM PST by okay
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To: nutmeg

Good luck selling your home to get out of this stinkhole state.


79 posted on 03/02/2011 6:22:59 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Betis70

Malloy won narrowly, after the corrupt Dem stinkhole of Bridgeport CT had ballot “recounts”.

Kind of like what they do in Chicago.


80 posted on 03/02/2011 6:29:36 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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