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Should Boys Be Wrestling Girls?
Townhall.com ^ | March 1, 2011 | Mona Charen

Posted on 03/01/2011 9:40:00 AM PST by Kaslin

Around Washington, D.C., if you mention Iowa, the first thing that will pop into most people's minds is "caucuses." But in Iowa, if you asked a local about the matchups, he'd most likely assume you were talking about wrestling. That's right, the non-metaphorical, sweaty, rough-and-tumble on the mat sort of wrestling.

This year's Iowa state championships attracted attention nationwide when the promising high school sophomore Joel Northrup (the fifth-ranked wrestler in the state) defaulted on his first match. He had drawn Cassy Herkelman, a female freshman, as his opponent, and he could not, in good conscience, wrestle a girl.

Northrup's statement was a model of clarity and simplicity: "I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan (Black, another female wrestler who made it to the state championships) and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times. As a matter of conscience and my faith, I do not believe it that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most high school sports in Iowa." Had he not declined to wrestle Herkelman, he might have won it all.

The New York Times, the AP, and other national news organizations noted that Northrup's father is a minister -- the suggestion being that such peculiar and backward views as the young man expressed must be chalked up to a religious sensibility. Most of the coverage stressed the "girl against the old boys network" angle. The Times headline captured the tone: "On Wrestling Mat, Girls Still Face Uphill Struggle."

But not every issue fits neatly into the little boxes that New York Times headline writers like to arrange. The liberal template is always that conventional practices -- like not having boys and girls wrestle one another -- are obsolete now that we believe in pure sexual equally. Clinging to the outmoded notion that wrestling might be one sport best kept separate is evidence of sexism.

Rick Reilly, writing at ESPN.com, responded to the Rev. Northrup's view that "we believe in the elevation and respect of woman" with contempt: "That's where the Northrups are so wrong. Body slams and takedowns and gouges in the eye and elbows in the ribs are exactly how to respect Cassy Herkelman. This is what she lives for. She can elevate herself, thanks."

Are we really sure we want to obliterate the last traces of chivalry in young men -- to stamp out every trace of protectiveness from the male psyche?

Even if we agree that young women should be body slammed and gouged and hurt if that's what they've signed up for, you have to be living in a dream world not to face the other reality of co-ed wrestling: It puts the boy at a disadvantage.

Not only is any well brought up young man going to hesitate to use his full strength against a young lady, he is also going to have to be so, so careful about where he touches her. The genital areas of both sexes are off limits, obviously. But girls also have breasts. So the boys have to be very careful not to grab the girl in such a way as might cause his hands to touch her breasts if she moves in an unexpected direction. One finger slip and the wrestler becomes a sexual harasser, no? The girl, by contrast, can push and shove and grab the upper body of her opponent without impediment.

And why are boys being put in this awkward situation? Because a small minority of high school girls has decided to wrestle. According to the National Federation of State High School Associations, more than 275,000 boys competed in wrestling during the last school year -- compared with only 6,000 girls. Five states -- California, Hawaii, Texas, Washington, and Tennessee -- sponsor girls-only high school wrestling tournaments. In the other states, girls are asked to compete against boys.

Supporters of co-ed wrestling insist that sex is the last thing on the kids' minds when they're in the arena, which is almost certainly false. These are, after all, teenagers. Even when not in close proximity to the opposite sex, even when not coming into physical contact with the opposite sex at all, a teenager will spend a generous amount of time thinking about sex.

Joel Northrup did the honorable thing by bowing out and refusing to wrestle a girl. He cited his conscience and his faith. They have been better guides for him than a misplaced gender neutrality has been to the state of Iowa.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: genderneutrality; joelnorthrup; rassling; wrestling
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To: Kaslin; hiredhand
Joel Northrup may have defaulted and lost a temporal battle in the eyes of 'the world' but he surely won the greater match vs pure evil in the world...

as a young man, and as a CHRISTian, he took the hit for the greater GOOD of the Lord...for that Im thankful...

as to the girl and her parents, what are they thinkin ??? i know that if/when my baby girl requests to wrastle with 15 yr old boys [either inside or outside of the ring], I'll not only say no, but "HELL NO !!!" and deal with the situation in a manner that protects her from her own naivete and hormones...

we dont even hafta go 'there' as far as the opportunity that some, if not most 13-17 yr old guys will seek in coed sports...

41 posted on 03/01/2011 11:26:29 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: OB1kNOb

jethro could change a flat on the ole pick-up w/o a jack, and she could kick his azz...


42 posted on 03/01/2011 11:28:32 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: b4its2late

“No.”

We have the correct answer. If girls want to compete with boys play tennis or poker.


43 posted on 03/01/2011 11:28:49 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin

Should Boys Be Wrestling Girls?

...only in the back seat of Dad’s ‘72 Oldsmobile.


44 posted on 03/01/2011 11:30:41 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: jwalsh07
hehehe...T...M...I...

but i completely understand yer 'situation' at 16...

45 posted on 03/01/2011 11:30:49 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Kaslin

I’m not sure, can you hit them with a folding chair?


46 posted on 03/01/2011 11:33:45 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

What was “absurd” then is “the norm” now.


47 posted on 03/01/2011 11:41:58 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

“What happens if the girl is losing, and claims an “inappropriate” hold of some sort? Could the guy be deemed a sex offender?
And wouldn’t a decisive victory make the guy look like a “brute” anyway?
Sounds like there’s no way for the guy to win.”

If the young men want to put a stop to it all they have to do is use any number of legal and/or illegal moves to hurt the girls enough to “dissuade and discourage” any future desire to wrestle.

If she doesn’t get it the first time a second or third might be required.

Do I want to see that done to them? Absolutely not, but when you put young men in a no-win situation like this something drastic has to be done.


48 posted on 03/01/2011 11:43:48 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: jwalsh07

In a weird sort of way, you just confirmed my point.


49 posted on 03/01/2011 11:52:15 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline

What happens when the boy and girl in the wrestling match get aroused and start banging away on each other on the mat? Gee, who’d a thunk it?


50 posted on 03/01/2011 12:01:20 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: FW190

Cheap joke and very old.


51 posted on 03/01/2011 12:12:23 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: paulycy

52 posted on 03/01/2011 12:13:51 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

Absolutely not.


53 posted on 03/01/2011 12:18:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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Any father that allows his daughter to wrestle should be ashamed of himself. There was a girl in Illinois that played on the boys football team and actually died from an injury she suffered playing football. Men should protect their daughters.


54 posted on 03/01/2011 12:18:31 PM PST by DBirchy
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To: RightOnline

>> Those of us who have wrestled (high school, in my case) know the answer: not a chance in hell. Wholly inappropriate.

I was paired off with a guy who got injured.


55 posted on 03/01/2011 12:27:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: DoughtyOne
First off, I don't believe in nor endorse boys vs. girls in competitive wrestling. (Jr High through High School). Gefore that I don't have a problem and after that, they are adults. But to your points:

Nobody wanted more contact with girls than I at that age, but there’s no way in hell I would have wanted to wrestle competitively with them. I agree totally, but had they been around, I'd had wrestled them.

If she gets hurt, you’re the bad guy. Sometimes getting hurt is unavoidable, if I'm the bad guy for that, that's OK

If you touch her in the wrong place, you’re the bad guy. This is avoidable when the male has superior skills so it wouldn't have applied for me.

If she beats you, the other guys will never let you live it down. Never would've happened, but if it did, kicking the crap out of other guys to get them to shut up about it is typical boy behavior.

If you beat her, the win is thought of as a guy who beat a girl. There are many matches where you get someone unequal to the task, that's just the way it is, how you handle yourself in victory or defeat is what matters.

If you refuse to engage in it, you get ripped to shreds across the nation in print. Your family gets scrutinized, you’re religion gets trashed, and you are are thought of as a neanderthal. Unfortunately true for this kid, but he got to make that decision. I wouldn't have, after a season worth of work I wouldn't have surrendered the field to her

56 posted on 03/01/2011 12:32:23 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

Thanks for your comments Xone.


57 posted on 03/01/2011 12:56:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: Kaslin

In a word...No. Check out this clip of a 7-year-old national champion. He would destroy any girl he faced. If I were his dad, I wouldn’t want to put him in that position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQnsQSRVZno&feature=player_embedded


58 posted on 03/01/2011 1:04:24 PM PST by strider44
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To: bmwcyle
"Cheap joke and very old."

Sort of like the the Klingons from Urainis.

59 posted on 03/01/2011 1:08:33 PM PST by FW190
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To: Kaslin

The answer is no.

AND, Joel, you are FAR more a man than the pansies in your school district who are trying to force you guys into this.


60 posted on 03/01/2011 3:23:49 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Where do YOU stand in your relationship with God???)
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