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Baby Joseph’s lawyer dropped from case: prayer vigils planned
LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/1/11 | Patrick B. Craine

Posted on 03/01/2011 3:57:34 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: kaila; Dr. Brian Kopp
We are only hearing one side- the parents.

The death panel's "side" is that they want to kill Baby Joseph.

21 posted on 03/02/2011 7:23:27 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kaila
I see that you are from Washington state, did you vote for assisted suicide there a couple years back? I'm guessing you did.
22 posted on 03/02/2011 7:24:52 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kaila

Suffocation is SO much kinder./s


23 posted on 03/02/2011 7:29:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: kaila
I do not beleive in prolonging death for stupid reasons.

You mean like life?

A trache is not a "heroic" measure.

24 posted on 03/02/2011 7:30:50 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: wagglebee

I have to go to work.
It was interesting debating.
I did not vote in that election.


25 posted on 03/02/2011 7:38:28 AM PST by kaila
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To: kaila; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; NYer; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
It was interesting debating.

This is about saving a human life, not a debate.

I did not vote in that election.

Then do you support Washington state's legalization of assisted suicide? A simple yes or no will suffice.

26 posted on 03/02/2011 7:42:26 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kaila
It was interesting debating.

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Yes, "debating" the issue of a baby's life or death is "interesting" isn't it?

27 posted on 03/02/2011 7:42:36 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
It was interesting to see people with no medical knowledge spout off.
28 posted on 03/02/2011 7:48:08 AM PST by kaila
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To: kaila

I thought it was more “interesting” to see someone with no moral perspective or compassion for human beings “spout off”. Particularly one who claims to be a nurse.


29 posted on 03/02/2011 7:55:20 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kaila
The sister probably did not lose her breathing reflex.

Probably was not on a ventilator.

We're talking life and death here. Unless you know these things as fact, stop conjecturing.

30 posted on 03/02/2011 8:00:04 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: kaila
people with no medical knowledge spout off.

You obviously have little medical knowledge of this specific case. What are your medical credentials?

31 posted on 03/02/2011 8:02:57 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: trisham; kaila
Particularly one who claims to be a nurse.

OMG! A nurse? Compassion incarnate!/s

32 posted on 03/02/2011 8:09:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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The culture of death long ago determined that it is far easier to kill someone with conjecture than it was with facts.

When they claim to have "facts" it is typically a fabricated talking point.

Look at what they did with Terri Schiavo:

1. They stated as a fact that she was "brain dead" and yet they gave her morphine for pain (of course it was also to slow her breathing and kill her quicker, but they didn't publicize that). Why would someone who is "brain dead" need anything for pain?

2. Then they said that being dehydrated to death is "euphoric" but provided NOTHING to support this claim. And again, how can a person who is "brain dead" experience euphoria?

The FACTS in Baby Joseph's case is that a person who is "brain dead" CANNOT survive for more than a few minutes off of a respirator, so why is the hospital unwilling to give him a tracheotomy?

In Baby Joseph's case money is now being used as a red herring. Father Frank Pavone would not have offered financial support if he didn't have the backing to do it.

33 posted on 03/02/2011 8:10:29 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Well said. Didn’t we know with Terri that this issue was not going to go away, that instead her murder was just going to be the beginning?


34 posted on 03/02/2011 8:26:23 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Particularly one who claims to be a nurse.

Oh, OK.

35 posted on 03/02/2011 8:41:16 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: wagglebee
 
Every Child Born Is a Sign

Hope is indelibly engraved in the human heart because God our Father is life, and for eternal life and beatitude we are made.

Every child born is a sign of trust in God and man and a confirmation, at least implicit, of the hope in a future open to God’s eternity that is nourished by men and women. God has responded to this human hope, concealing Himself in time as a tiny human being.

Saint Augustine wrote: “We might have thought that your Word was far distant from union with man, if this Word had not become flesh and dwelt among us” (Conf. X, 43, 69, cited in Spe Salvi, n. 29).

Thus, let us allow ourselves to be guided by the One who in her heart and in her womb bore the Incarnate Word.

O Mary, Virgin of expectation and Mother of hope, revive the spirit of Advent in your entire Church, so that all humanity may start out anew on the journey towards Bethlehem, from which it came, and that the Sun that dawns upon us from on high will come once again to visit us (cf. Lk 1: 78), Christ our God. Amen.

Pope Benedict XVI
From his homily for the first vespers
of the first Sunday of Advent,
December 1, 2007 - St. Peter’s Basilica


36 posted on 03/02/2011 2:48:22 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: kaila

**No way is a hospital in the US going to accept this patient**

Have you never heard of Catholic hopsitals?


37 posted on 03/02/2011 2:50:06 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I missed that before, but yes. Exactly. :)


38 posted on 03/02/2011 2:51:56 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salvation

Read further, and it will all be clear.


39 posted on 03/02/2011 2:53:02 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Please read the report by the medical board.

http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onccb/doc/2011/2011canlii7955/2011canlii7955.html

I am not sure how to copy and paste to the FR site, but this report is very detailed. This baby has no brain function.

Fight for another cause. There are a lot of children out there who need help and support. Help and support with medical bills, etc. Fight for them.


40 posted on 03/02/2011 4:11:07 PM PST by kaila
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