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McCain Rejects Idea That U.S. Can’t Afford No-Fly Zone in Libya (McCain wants to intervene in Libya)
Fox ^ | 2011-03-02

Posted on 03/02/2011 6:45:11 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Look at the flip side.

We step in and take the side of the rebels.

The rebels win.

That gives encouragement to the rebels in the other countries that they can do the same thing.

Chaos spreads.

No matter how you look at it, it's a no win.

Let them kill each other now, it's fewer muslims we have to kill later.

21 posted on 03/02/2011 7:11:43 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: rabscuttle385
This man is worse than useless.


22 posted on 03/02/2011 7:14:45 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Just curious, but where in the Constitution do you find verbiage that allows the USA to intervene in the domestic affairs of a sovereign country simply because we currently get 2% of our oil from them? Instead of wasting more blood and treasure in a region that has been unstable for more than 2000 years why not focus our efforts on developing ALL of our domestic energy sources like nuclear, thorium, oil, natural gas, etc.? We have all the energy we need right here if the gubmint would quit prohibiting the development of our own domestic resources. We have lots and lots of energy sources right here in the good ‘ole USA. Screw the middle east!


23 posted on 03/02/2011 7:15:55 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
McCain is correct. We can cobble together a coalition so that it does not look like we’re doing this unilaterally and enforce a no fly zone. If we don’t hasten Gadaffi’s downfall, this region could continue into a civil war for a long time.

If this is a conflict between Gadaffi and the Islamists, and it increasingly looks that way, then we should stay out of it. It would be beneficial to the US's long-term interests to have both sides kill each other.

24 posted on 03/02/2011 7:22:01 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep, just like the Iran-Iraq war, sell ‘em both weapons, and let them kill each other off.


25 posted on 03/02/2011 7:24:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: silverleaf
Without a national plan or depository for nuke waste,

Thorium reactors. No waste depository necessary. In fact, they can be used to safely deactivate spent fuel and weapons grade material. Thorium is cheap, abundant and safe.

26 posted on 03/02/2011 7:25:06 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain wants to intervene in Libya

F him and the bloated water buffalo he rode in on. This floating turd should intervene and closing all our borders first.

27 posted on 03/02/2011 7:27:50 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: dfwgator

Agree, I was thinking the same thing about live-shot McCain.


28 posted on 03/02/2011 7:31:35 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: rabscuttle385

I know we need their oil, but fact is if there is a tough pill we should swallow its we are broke and cannot be their saviour any longer, it must stop and we must put a wartime like effort to drill everywhere now..that is where our money should be going, not to the unions and other Uhbummer BS..
Lets cut deals with major oil companies who are our friends and go like we never have, production and refining..eliminate ALL overseas spending, take the federal g’s right to raise money away, just tell them we have to look out for ourselves and thee old way of protecting dictators is going away, perhaps continue support for Saudi Arabia until we are up and running and in the mean time sell them adequate weaponry to defend themselves, and tell all the other b holes ie Iran, Lybia, etc, mess with SA and Israel you are fried, no troops just nuked, tired of it...have a nice day..


29 posted on 03/02/2011 7:37:30 AM PST by aces
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To: Catphish

Yep..


30 posted on 03/02/2011 7:38:57 AM PST by aces
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To: Catphish
"Then maybe we’ll learn a lesson and either drill here or starting relying on nuclear power once and for all . . . ."

I agree, but that option isn't open while the current clown is in office. Even if we started now, we'd still need a lot of exported oil for the next 5-10 years. So we'd still need that part of the world to be stable.
31 posted on 03/02/2011 7:53:57 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Huck

“McCain’s an idiot.”

Yeh Juan US troops anywhere except the US/Mexican border. You Jackwagon.


32 posted on 03/02/2011 7:56:59 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: IMR 4350
Let them kill each other now, it's fewer muslims we have to kill later.

Precisely. The more chaos in the Muslim world the better for us. The one thing that is keeping the world from being conquered by Muslims is they are still very tribal and, for the most part, can't stand each other. Much like the Chicoms, if the Muzzies all get going in one direction we're in deep doo-doo. If McCain wants to fight in Libya I say issue the old geezer an M-16, 10,000 rounds of ammo and a one way plane ticket. I'll even chip in $100 for the ticket!

33 posted on 03/02/2011 7:58:03 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Thermalseeker
"Just curious, but where in the Constitution do you find verbiage that allows the USA to intervene in the domestic affairs of a sovereign country simply because we currently get 2% of our oil from them?"

Its right at the beginning in the pre-amble. Where it says the Federal Government is to provide for the common defense. It has nothing to do with how much oil we get from Libya. We have a vested national interest in ensuring that region of the world is somewhat stable. Not only for oil, but for the free flow of our trade.

Using your line of thinking, where in the constitution did it give us the ability to go to war with Germany? They didn't attack us and many countries have declared war on us without us reciprocating. See Osama Bin Laden, Al Qada and the Taliban circa 1998.
34 posted on 03/02/2011 7:59:28 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: rabscuttle385
Bottom line, Bambi doesn't want to.

That's his mentor and paster for 20 years pal and buddy.

Is Bambi having Jeremiah Wright confer with The Madman From Libya?

35 posted on 03/02/2011 8:00:27 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: PapaBear3625
"If this is a conflict between Gadaffi and the Islamists, and it increasingly looks that way, then we should stay out of it."

Where have you seen that the revolutionaries are Islamists? I have seen no reporting to indicate that the revolutionaries want to overthrow Gadaffi to set up a caliphate and implement sharia law.
36 posted on 03/02/2011 8:01:51 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Its right at the beginning in the pre-amble.

Um, the preamble to the Constitution is not law. You need to read a little farther than the preamble, specifically to Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 1 and 11.

Using your line of thinking, where in the constitution did it give us the ability to go to war with Germany? They didn't attack us and many countries have declared war on us without us reciprocating.

They didn't attack us? I think you need to study the history leading up to WWII just a wee bit. German U-boats were sinking US flagged merchant vessels who were supporting Great Britain's war effort long before we declared war on Germany. This was an act of war on the United States. Civil war in Libya is not an act of war against the United States regardless of how much trade we do with the region (which isn't much outside of us buying oil from them that we don't need)

37 posted on 03/02/2011 8:09:45 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Thermalseeker

People keep talking about the price of oil going up.

As long as that big eared twerp or anyone like him is in the WH and stopping drilling and every other energy development in this country, the price of oil will keep going up.

Green energy works for plants, not people.


38 posted on 03/02/2011 8:13:10 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Thermalseeker

People keep talking about the price of oil going up.

As long as that big eared twerp or anyone like him is in the WH and stopping drilling and every other energy development in this country, the price of oil will keep going up.

Green energy works for plants, not people.


39 posted on 03/02/2011 8:18:29 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
....the price of oil will keep going up.

By design. Obama told us just before the election in '08 that under his energy policies the cost of energy would "necessarily skyrocket". So, it should come as no surprise that we're headed for $4/gallon gasoline. Obama's plans are coming together quite well, don't you think? He wants chaos. High fuel prices, runaway inflation, devaluing the Dollar, making as many people dependent on gubmint as possible, propping up the goonions, paralyzing corporations and businesses, massive additions to our debt, it's all part of the plan, man.....

40 posted on 03/02/2011 8:22:22 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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