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Libyan rebels seize British SAS troops-Sunday Times
Reuters ^ | Mar 6, 2011 | Stefano Ambrogi

Posted on 03/05/2011 10:11:55 PM PST by Doofer

Libyan rebels have captured a British special forces unit in the east of the country after a secret diplomatic mission to make contact with opposition leaders backfired, Britain's Sunday Times reported. The team, understood to number up to eight SAS soldiers, were intercepted as they escorted a junior diplomat through rebel-held territory, the newspaper said. The Foreign Office said in a brief statement it could neither "confirm or deny" the report. Earlier on Saturday the Geneva-based Human Rights Solidarity group, which employs a number of Libyan exiles, told Reuters by telephone that a team of "eight special forces personnel" had been seized by rebels. Both the Ministry of Defence and Foreign Office repeatedly declined to comment on the group's report. The SAS intervention apparently angered Libyan opposition figures, who ordered the soldiers locked up on a military base, according to the Sunday Times. Opponents of longtime Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi fear he could use any evidence of Western military intervention to rally patriotic support away from a two-week-old uprising against his 41-year autocratic rule. Citing Libyan sources, the Sunday Times said the special forces troops were taken by rebels to Benghazi, Libya's second largest city and epicentre of the insurrection, and hauled before one of its most senior politicians for questioning. The paper said the junior diplomat they were escorting was preparing the way for a visit by a more senior colleague ahead of establishing diplomatic relations with the rebels. The Sunday Times said Libyan opposition officials were said to be trying to hush up the incident for fear of a backlash from ordinary Libyans.

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1 posted on 03/05/2011 10:12:03 PM PST by Doofer
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To: Doofer

The Libyan desert never did agree with British troops...


2 posted on 03/05/2011 10:14:53 PM PST by Last Dakotan (Hunting - the ultimate in organic grocery shopping.)
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To: Doofer

Oh, I’m sure that the UK releasing that Lockerbie terrorist who was on death’s door as a humanitarian gesture will buy these SAS men a lot of goodwill with Khadafy.


3 posted on 03/05/2011 10:19:53 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Doofer
The paper said the junior diplomat they were escorting was preparing the way for a visit by a more senior colleague ahead of establishing diplomatic relations with the rebels.

Was he wearing a red shirt? Ok, not to make light of it but... This is why the junior personnel go out and make contact first.

Not sure I'd want to be those rebels when the next SAS team comes in to free their brethren. They will have very different ROE.

4 posted on 03/05/2011 10:21:20 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Doofer

The last thing the rebels need is division, although many of them seem to think they need external help and clearly a lot of us foreigners do want to help em.


5 posted on 03/05/2011 10:38:58 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Doofer
How do 8 SAS lads get seized by the rebels, who by most media accounts appear to lack proper training, equipment, and organization?

Seems like there's more to the story...

6 posted on 03/05/2011 10:44:04 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Doofer

uhbummer probably ratted them out..


7 posted on 03/05/2011 10:46:37 PM PST by aces
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To: Doofer
Hmmm, can't blame this one on Teh OneTM...

so the limey poofters will have to own up their own increasing dhimmification and emasculation, all by themselves.

NO cheers, unfortunately. This will just convince the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, "The Arab Street" etc. that the West is just a bunch of p*ssies.

Speaking of which...

8 posted on 03/05/2011 10:47:13 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Well, they were probably wearing Red, making them easy to identify.

Worked out for for us... Twice.


9 posted on 03/05/2011 10:49:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don’t take life so seriously... You’ll never live through it.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

4th person in a British Star Trek landing party?


10 posted on 03/05/2011 10:51:36 PM PST by Vendome (Don’t take life so seriously... You’ll never live through it.)
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To: Doofer
In the meantime from Drudge

UK ‘to send team of spies’ to help oust Gadhafi...
British Army readies for mission at 24 hours’ notice...
Obama goes golfing...

Note OBAMA goes golfing

11 posted on 03/05/2011 11:18:02 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Doofer

Bad move by the so called “Muslim Brotherhood.” Can’t blame the brits for seeking to rescue their diplomat.

If the MB harms them, then the wrath to come will be unconscionable. Since the brits will act independent of the UN and the US to protect their own. Which is all they were trying to do, in the first place.


12 posted on 03/05/2011 11:21:39 PM PST by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: Doofer

They should have send their carrier group those harriers could have come in handy.

Oh wait


13 posted on 03/05/2011 11:53:34 PM PST by Flavius (A)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Isn’t this the same country whose navy surrendered to an Iranian gunboat?


14 posted on 03/05/2011 11:56:14 PM PST by Dagnabitt ("Obama" - Swahili for "Fail")
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To: Doofer

The Brit’s own Operation Eagle Claw?


15 posted on 03/06/2011 12:22:53 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Doofer

Considering Iran & AQ have bases there now this is not too bright.


16 posted on 03/06/2011 12:28:52 AM PST by Domangart
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To: Doofer

sooooo....this shows that the rebels are just as anti west as Kadafi. Take their oil and the hell with em.


17 posted on 03/06/2011 12:45:31 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Doofer

Prayers for the soldiers and for their loved ones.


18 posted on 03/06/2011 2:21:08 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Doofer

Why is anyone from a western country playing around with these animals?

Wait out the civil war, once they have descimated each other we could come in and mop up then establish a new figurehead.


19 posted on 03/06/2011 4:15:05 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: Doofer
SAS unit captured by Libyan rebels

Note to the Brits: Could this be what happens when you acquire a rep for double-dealing....?

20 posted on 03/06/2011 4:21:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: mewzilla
UK silent on report Libyan rebels seize troops
21 posted on 03/06/2011 4:32:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: mewzilla
Still more info, FWIW, here....

Top UK commandos captured by rebel forces in Libya: Report

22 posted on 03/06/2011 4:35:08 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: Doofer
Libyan rebels have captured a British special forces unit in the east of the country after a secret diplomatic mission to make contact with opposition leaders backfired, Britain's Sunday Times reported.

UK diplomatic/political incompetence to send these brave men into a trap.

23 posted on 03/06/2011 4:36:05 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: DTogo
"How do 8 SAS lads get seized by the rebels, who by most media accounts appear to lack proper training, equipment, and organization?"

Given the nature of the mission, I'll bet they had ROEs that prevented them firing on the rebels.

24 posted on 03/06/2011 4:41:13 AM PST by Truth29
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To: TomasUSMC

“sooooo....this shows that the rebels are just as anti west as Kadafi. Take their oil and the hell with em.”
You have just summed up in ten words what the MSM is about to push as foreign policy. There is a special place in hell for hypocrites


25 posted on 03/06/2011 5:01:54 AM PST by philoctetes
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To: Doofer
Irrespective of most of the interesting commentary on this, the British were truly stupid to send 8 men as bodyguards into a civil war.

I mean far left liberal loon trash stupid, as in educated by some public school system.
Sending good men into a war zone to talk.
Ever hear of preplanned discrete advance contact & mutual meetings in safe & neutral places?
This sounds like dreamy flower power hippy can't we all just get along thinking.

Public schools:

islands of liberal insanity surrounded by reality.

26 posted on 03/06/2011 5:04:07 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Doofer

Personally, if I wanted to train the rebels in order to help them topple the gov’t, I would set this up. If the rebels were smart, they would get the Brits to help.


27 posted on 03/06/2011 5:28:22 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Doofer
Defence secretary Liam Fox today confirmed a British diplomatic team is in Libya talking to rebel forces...Sources believe the rebels who took the SAS members and junior diplomat are simply “making a point”.

Listen closely you morons. Apparently they are trying to help you. If you're not smart enough to understand that, you deserve what you get. Jeez.

28 posted on 03/06/2011 5:41:10 AM PST by McGruff (Is it time to Drill Baby Drill yet?)
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To: Doofer

Where is Monte when they need him!!! Rather, Patton is needed with a division of tanks. That’d fix it quick.


29 posted on 03/06/2011 6:24:51 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Read 1 Cor 15: 1-4. Paul's gospel explained. Read it.)
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To: Last Dakotan
The Libyan desert never did agree with British troops...

Huh? If the reports are correct and these were members of 22 SAS Regiment, they were founded in the Libyan desert! I'd say Iraq hasn't been kind, considering Bravo Two Zero.

30 posted on 03/06/2011 6:53:17 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
German generals considered North Africa a tactician's paradise and a quartermaster's hell


31 posted on 03/06/2011 7:14:10 AM PST by Last Dakotan (Hunting - the ultimate in organic grocery shopping.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

if this is true then you can be sure the SAS will go on and kill everyone of these people now.


32 posted on 03/06/2011 7:44:45 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Bronzy

so the Brits and even the Dutch have gone on and done something and OBAMA IS GOLFING

What a prize clown we have and even more sad is his cult who adore this muppet


33 posted on 03/06/2011 7:46:40 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: DTogo
How do 8 SAS lads get seized by the rebels, who by most media accounts appear to lack proper training, equipment, and organization?

What many forget is that Muslim forces can be willing to spend more men than an eight-man patrol has ammo for.

The Brits would have been better off dropping a satellite phone from a UAV on each rebel stronghold and chatting with them remotely. If they got somebody worth talking to, they could use another UAV to airdrop a small video conferencing system.

34 posted on 03/06/2011 8:11:37 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Last Dakotan

35 posted on 03/06/2011 8:27:54 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Doofer

They have now been released.


36 posted on 03/06/2011 9:59:02 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: The KG9 Kid

Its the rebels who have siezed them. Not Gaddafi.


37 posted on 03/06/2011 10:05:12 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Give it a little while.


38 posted on 03/06/2011 10:18:18 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: grey_whiskers
Off the top of my head, this has more to do with BP and getting control of flowing oil.....just sayin.
39 posted on 03/06/2011 10:44:17 AM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Bronzy
In the meantime from Drudge UK ‘to send team of spies’ to help oust Gadhafi... British Army readies for mission at 24 hours’ notice... Obama goes golfing... Note OBAMA goes golfing


Libyans need only read Drudge
40 posted on 03/06/2011 10:49:51 AM PST by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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To: Chgogal; grey_whiskers; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I am taking the position that the British Government and BP have a close working relationship. Notice I said British which includes the Scots and explains the Lockerbie terrorist release of 2009. Eight SAS soldiers are tough hombres and would not allow themselves (at least not ALL eight) to be taken captive that easily unless under orders to do so. They are there to negotiate something in the favor of BP and the British Government, possibly in that order.


41 posted on 03/06/2011 10:51:46 AM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: DTogo
I think anyone can get caught in the wrong situation. It is entirely possible that all was proceeding as that British wanted it to, them escorting the guy, when they are speaking amicably to either the same faction or a different one, they are covered by weapons before they can react.

It is entirely possible that they are being held be a different faction of rebels than the one the represented by the guy they were escorting around, and they thought the representative was an usurper and should be shot.

42 posted on 03/06/2011 11:05:08 AM PST by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: rlmorel

I thought someone said they have been released...true?


43 posted on 03/06/2011 11:15:10 AM PST by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: Doofer

I am truly confused:
“Libyan rebels have captured a British special forces unit in the east of the country after a secret diplomatic mission to make contact with opposition leaders backfired”

Aren’t the Libyan reels the opposition? Aren’t the rebels the exact ones the Brits wanted to make contact with?


44 posted on 03/06/2011 11:24:58 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: RetiredArmy

1943: Monty / Patton
2011: Monty Python


45 posted on 03/06/2011 12:42:10 PM PST by rfp1234 (Le Parti du The'. Ne marchez pas sur moi!)
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To: Monorprise
“...they need external help and clearly a lot of us foreigners do want to help em....”

HELL NO !! Are you daft !!?? They're Muslims - aka OUR ENEMY in this 3rd Islamic War.
Let the Mussies kill one another then we will have less to deal with.
Lest anyone forget the real rules of engagement - when the dust settles over there, there will another Sharia state(s) and we will then have another enemy to destroy. ,

46 posted on 03/06/2011 12:45:17 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: Doofer; SE Mom; Uncle Ike; no-to-illegals; Pan_Yan; Marine_Uncle; Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

I decided to put my daily AOL News link here as the Libya Live Thread is no longer on the right side list. A lot about the action at BenJwad (retaken by Q?), RasLanuf and Misrata (seem to be resisting effectively). Also on the British guys. Looking at the map it seems that Qadaffi is trying to cut off the rebels who are advancing on his hoped for future capital at Sirte. BJ separates RL from Benghazi. The rebels advancing are between RL and Sirte. Misrata separates Tripoli from Sirte. At Misrata, the defenders cleverly allowed the advancing loyalists deep into the city and then counterattacked.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/06/libyan-forces-battle-rebels-advancing-toward-capital/


47 posted on 03/06/2011 1:24:09 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: RWGinger; Doofer; All

On being truly confused: Here is a link I posted last night at the Libya Live Thread. It goes into considerable detail regarding the tribal situation and loyalties in Libya. I looked at a number of items under Google “Libya Tribal Groups” or something like that. This seemed to be one of the better ones. How big these tribes are? Figures vary in different articles. In cities there are apparently several tribes, perhaps with different agendas.

http://www.onislam.net/english/culture-and-entertainment/media/451304-will-libyan-tribes-decide-qaddafi-fate.html


48 posted on 03/06/2011 1:37:58 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: DTogo
Seems like there's more to the story...

OBVIOUSLY...

Why isn't the mass media asking simple questions like:

Why are there Libyan refugees when the people are the ones supposedly 'protesting'?

How can a peaceful group of Libyan citizens without weapons, training, and organization be engaged in an armed conflict with the Libyan military?

Why do peaceful 'protestors' request a no-fly zone?

49 posted on 03/06/2011 2:32:12 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: gleeaikin

Thanks for the update. This pseudo civil war is going to rage for a long time, assuming the anti-government forces continue to grow.


50 posted on 03/06/2011 2:40:50 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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