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To: devattel

Can we add a “hue and cry” or “cry de pais” to those reasons? Isn’t there and even longer standing common law principle that provides a method of a hearing in court before a Judge a matter of continued contention, or extrema of danger, where no clear established principle of current law seems to apply? Wasn’t such the reason for Quo Warranto and Mandamus in the first place? These are legal remedies or judicial relief, so as to maintain the peace and good order in a society, or to effect justice in a situation for which the current system of law has not provided?

Where is the relief for the People to a hypothetical situation even more obvious as to illegitimacy for office than an Obama, say a man proven to be too young, once sworn into office?

What is the measure of a just system? Can it be measured by how casually Judges esteemed by their peers mock the lowly who appear in earnest before them? Or how “Justice” makes more than enough care for the powerful, the connected and famous, to the point of obsequiousness?


123 posted on 03/07/2011 7:33:16 PM PST by bvw
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bvw said:

Where is the relief for the People to a hypothetical situation even more obvious as to illegitimacy for office than an Obama, say a man proven to be too young, once sworn into office? What is the measure of a just system? Can it be measured by how casually Judges esteemed by their peers mock the lowly who appear in earnest before them? Or how “Justice” makes more than enough care for the powerful, the connected and famous, to the point of obsequiousness?

These are all excellent questions. Our avenue for harm to the general population is to engage with our states. Attorney generals are there to protect us. It is their duty to file cases against the federal government to protect the general population. We have seen this with the new health care bill.

The issue here is states are generally selfish and attempt to protect themselves before protecting the people it represents. Since there is no "long-term threat" by a usurper in a position with a 4 year election cycle, most attorney generals will ignore the issue, even if they feel it is a viable complaint. What they fail to realize is every time this issue rears its head, the opportunity for additional election fraud rises tenfold. Foreign control is also a very dangerous outcome.

All of these "birther bills" miss the mark because they are not addressing the real problem at the roots. Do not call it a "birther bill". Create a bill called the "Electoral College Protection Act". It should mandate all electors must ensure they are qualified, and that any candidate they are voting for is qualified. Place punishments based on new election fraud provisions. Example: "Any elector found guilty of voting for unqualified candidates is subject to not more than 60 days".

Spread the responsibility around. Create standing for voters. Ensure laws can be enforced locally.
127 posted on 03/07/2011 8:36:13 PM PST by devattel
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Wonderful post.


130 posted on 03/07/2011 8:57:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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