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To: bvw

Hue and cry.

In 1857 the courts did not hear it. It was frivolous for a black slave to presume to bring a court case. It was a distraction, a nuisance, they were after all, sub-human. A man did bring a Grand Jury of sorts, it being an active Jury. He brought it to Harper’s Ferry, Virginia in 1859. By April less than two years later, the Civil War broke out. Less than two years.

Now Obama’s case is not like that. No such insurrection will arise from not hearing it. But the danger of not hearing that hue and cry is as great. For if Obama is not removed from office the nation may not survive, as a Republic, until the new President arrives in late January 2013. Obama has shown how dangerous he can be, but he has not yet completed his demonstration.

Do you imagine a civil war will be avoided here?

Obama’s allies call for it. Have you been deaf or blind to the reports of their words?

Obama in his thug-king’s passive-aggressive verbal framing has called for it too.


Dred Scott’s case had a judicial history, just like Obama eligibility cases. Mr. Scott first sued in a Missouri court, Scott v Emerson. The case then went to the Supreme Court of Missouri and then on to the Supreme Court of the United States. Having one’s day in court does not guarantee a legal victory. The Supreme Court’s decision in Scott v Sanford was a primary reason for the ratification of the 14th Amendment and without the 14th Amendment, Barack Hussein Obama II would not be President of the United States.

Your “civil war/revolt” hyperbole is just silliness and not worthy of a response from me.

Obama currently has a 46% positive and 46% percent negative composite job approval rating when averaging all of the latest national polls and he has a 52% positive personal favorability rating. He’s a mediocre president in the eyes of the vast majority of the American people. The republic will survive the Obama presidency, whether it’s four or eight years long. Four years of Obama will be 2% of the history of the Republic and eight years of Obama will be 4% of the history of the Republic.


156 posted on 03/08/2011 4:58:35 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

I mention that dollar store calculators would make less arrogant and more accurate judges than Judges of the Hubris-Maximum today (or of the 1850’s, it’s a cyclic thing) and right away you start pounding on the percentage key!


157 posted on 03/08/2011 5:03:41 PM PST by bvw
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To: jamese777
Unfortunately the alarm about Obama and his cohort seeking to foment a rebellion in America in the coming months -- or years if they determine he can risk a re-election -- is far from hyperbole.

The situation is Wisconsin is part of it, as is the constant harm and danger they have allowed to fester on the Mexican border. As is the outreach and coordination with the Muslim Brotherhood. The trips by Obama associates to these places in an uproar -- including Code Pink -- are to bring on a worldwide revolution and chaos. Each day they progress further towards such a national calamity. This is war, just as Bloody Kansas may be counted as part of the War Against Slavery.

Obama's friend and Special Advisor, another Chicago revolutionary scene fellow traveler had these words for collage students in Colorado three days ago:

"They [the millennials] know more than their parents and grandparents. There once was a basis for young people to respect old people." He then used milking a cow as his example of the knowledge that grandpa could give junior. But, junior is now smarter than mom, dad, & grandpa because at the age of 6, junior knows how to work a DVD player.

-- El Paso Tea Party Report "Van Jones in Colorado Springs"

It is a tragic characteristic of the Marxist revolutions of the late 20th Century that they break the chain of national and cultural traditions by destruction of establishments and documents, and also by killing off the old generation. In China and Cambodia TWO generations were "erased". That's reality. Not hyperbole.

Obama and his crew have a perverted fondness for Marxist revolution and for Mao's in particular. In the years the Weathermen were actively killing and seeking to kill fellow Americans it was, Bill Ayers, Obama's dear close friend and mentor, who is speaking in the excerpt of a film ...

In No Place to Hide, Grathwohl explains that the Weathermen actually believed that they would be successful in overthrowing the U.S. government and that, with the help of the Cubans, Chinese, Russians, and North Vietnamese, they would occupy America. Americans would have to be "re-educated" in camps, similar to what the communists did in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and other countries they had taken over. Here is one of the chilling revelations Larry Grathwohl made in the film:
I asked, "Well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?" And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say "eliminate," I mean "kill."

Twenty-five million people.

---Obama's Friend Ayers, New American web magazine, by William F. Jasper, 31 October 2008


158 posted on 03/08/2011 5:39:21 PM PST by bvw
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To: jamese777
The Supreme Court’s decision in Scott v Sanford was a primary reason for the ratification of the 14th Amendment and without the 14th Amendment, Barack Hussein Obama II would not be President of the United States.

Speaking of the descendants of slaves, Barack Hussein Obama II, is the descendant of slave owners and slave traders on BOTH sides of his family. He is NOT a descendant of slaves. The citizenship provision of the 14th never applied to him. His dad, Barack Obama, Sr, was a member of the east African Luo Tribe, a tribe which became powerful through the wealth gained in the slave trade with Arabs.

His mother's family line also includes slaveowners.

What irony that the man you and so so many claim as perhaps the most potent demonstration of how America has thrown off slavery has himself only family connections to and a family heritage of slave trading and ownership, and none to having been an oppressed slave! Slavery and slave trading continues in Africa today, and almost certainly Luo Tribe members are still involved in it.

160 posted on 03/09/2011 4:22:35 AM PST by bvw
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