Posted on 03/07/2011 1:40:38 PM PST by devattel
The "birthers" who insist that President Barack Obama does not meet the citizenship requirement to be president represent a fringe of public opinion.
Then there are some whose views represent only a fringe of the fringe.
That's where the bill proposed by Sen. Mark Christensen of Imperial comes from.
The charge that Obama failed to meet the requirement that the president be a "natural born citizen" of our great country was dismissed as invalid long ago.
The director of the Hawaiian state agency that handles birth certificates issued the following statement: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen."
Various attempts to challenge Obama's citizenship have failed in court. The U.S. Supreme Court on several occasions has let stand lower court rulings that Obama met the requirement in the U.S. Constitution that the president be a "natural born citizen."
Yet the "birthers" keep the myth alive.
(Excerpt) Read more at journalstar.com ...
My apologies. I misunderstood your argument. I assumed you were insinuating that being born in the U.S. meant
natural born citizenship.
Thank you devolve!
I accept your apology.
Thank you for your input.
In the morning appearance of this editorial posted by Jabber
I did a tally of “Emotional smears and Ad-hominem attacks” in this short editorial and found 20 instances. Thee were also four major facts presented as truths that were false or dubious. That’s typical of propaganda, which the linked editorial is.
I also made an observation that may be useful. The main reason people give for bad mouthing the concerns so many have regarding Natural Born Citizen issue, and about Obama’s birth certificate is that these concerns were not raised about other Presidents, and therefore the reason they are being raised about Obama is a reason unique to Obama and the most unique thing about him is that he is black. Therefore the complaints are racist.
Well there is another unique thing about Mr. Obama that has been unremarked that applies to the issue of where he was born, and that marks a change in eras which which cause these concerns to arise again no matter the race of the candidate.
Obama was born in late 1961, and that was at the beginning of the Jet Age. The first regular jet liner service began in Hawaii in mid-1959. The speed and long distances that passenger jets cover means that a person can travel across a big ocean in less than a day and do so relatively anonymously. A pregnant woman can appear in the US on the day she gives birth half the world away. More people travel very long distances regularly, agencies are even offering “birth tourism” where a pregnant foreigner can gift her newborn US citizenship with no other association of that child with the US.
Thus it is quite expected and a natural outcome of a giant step in the technological progress in long distance travel that with Obama, as one of the first children of the Jet Age, we begin to see legitimate questions as to where a Presidential aspirant was born, and the Natural Born Citizen status. Each age has its unique new aspects of law and governance, the questions about birth and citizenship status are now far more important as the children of the Jet Age reach the age of becoming national leaders.
The poster of the other article turned out to be a nasty liberal troll (on another unrelated thread) who got the righteous zot of the nuke. With that level of zot, all his posts were wiped out. It wasn’t about that article at all.
Thank you!
Yeah, but I didn’t like the boat I got onto getting torpedoed like that. I lost some baggage before getting picked up out of the water.
The “progressives” who deny that President Barack Obama does not meet the citizenship requirement to be president represent a fringe of public opinion.
Today, my 75 year old father is looking forward to the passing of a birther bill that forces obamas hand. He's on the team.
The tables have turned.
Obama and his minions can't undo what has been done. Americans 2 to 1 , in their gut, know we have a fraud in the white house.
Now, there's a thought .... people write articles talking about "fringe" -- anybody try to enumerate the "prog" (= Stalinist) true believers who insist Obama's eligible, and see what percentage they are of the electorate?
“The statement found at KITV.com (October 31, 2008) says absolutely NOTHING about meeting the NBC qualifications. Back in the 1960s the State of HI issued birth certificates regardless of whether one was a NBC or not.”
Too bad Sun Yat Sen isn’t still alive. He’d make a great presidential candidate...
After 6 years, I have a quick tech question.
Is there something similar to a “reply to all” capability when replying to a post?
I.e., how does one include in a reply, all the named addressees listed in a post? The long list of recipient names breaks off with an ellipsis, of course, concealing the balance of the entire list.
Thanks!
Thank you, this needs to be said. The Founding Fathers never envisioned jet air travel. I believe they assumed--with sea journeys in their day taking weeks or months--that once someone set foot on our land, they had pretty good intentions of staying here, becoming a citizen, and raising a family. The ease and speed of modern jet air travel has made visiting a country almost whimsical.
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