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To: goodnesswins

“Each to their own.....I started eating the Caveman diet....if I stay away from flour based products and don’t eat much dairy...my cholesterol improved - in fact my doc says I have “ratio’s people would die for”...and I’m never hungry. People are different.”

You are extremely rare my friend. There is definite direct link from eating meat and heart disease. Indeed, a high fat diet is the number one indicator of getting heart disease. If your cholesterol is over 150 it is too high...regardless of what your doctor may say.


26 posted on 03/07/2011 10:01:31 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Do you know the ratios of your various cholesterol levels? Ldl, Sdl, Triglycerides, Total,etc....? That’s what I believe matters. I also have regularly power walked for 25 years....which may have something to do with it, too. My Total cholesterol went UP, but does not worry me or my doc. I think it’s around 215. I think there is more a direct link between flour based products and sugars to heart disease than meat...but, that’s just me (and my doc - Jonathan Wright, MD, ND) Course, my family has a susceptibility to Type 2 diabetes...which wreaks havoc on the body.


29 posted on 03/07/2011 10:06:48 PM PST by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: Wpin

“If your cholesterol is over 150 it is too high...regardless of what your doctor may say.”

Uhh, that may have been the consensus for much of the latter half of the 20th century, but a better understanding of the basic biochemistry of different forms of cholesterol has shown that to be INCORRECT.

High density lipoproteins actually REDUCE the overall incidence of arteriosclerosis. Blood serum levels BELOW 60mg/dl are actually linked with higher risk of MI and ischemic stroke.

A favorable ratio of HDL to LDL is FAR more important in most individuals than total level of cholesterol. If in doubt, use common sense and perform more detailed assays of arterial condition in order to get a detailed, realistic assessment of your current risk factors.


30 posted on 03/07/2011 10:22:42 PM PST by jameslalor
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To: Wpin
There is definite direct link from eating meat and heart disease

Yes, that why all the American Indians, who ate nothing but meat, died from heart disease. They actually didn't, but hey. Let's not let facts get in the way of vegan propaganda.

51 posted on 03/08/2011 7:12:18 AM PST by Red Boots
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