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Not only farmers get Colorado agriculture tax breaks (Tom Cruise pays $400-248 acres)
Denver Business Journal ^ | March 7, 2011

Posted on 03/08/2011 5:28:00 AM PST by maggief

The Denver Post concludes a two-part report today on Colorado's agriculture-land tax breaks and the non-farmers who benefit from them.

(Excerpt) Read more at bizjournals.com ...


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To: yldstrk
Remember John Kerry parking his yacht in another state to avoid taxes?

Kerry was guilty only of hypocrisy: there was absolutely nothing wrong with him parking his yacht wherever he wanted.

It's fine to be angry at Kerry or Hollywood celebrities, but it would be nice if you new why you are angry at them, wouldn't it?

41 posted on 03/08/2011 8:24:22 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: OilCanDan23
How do you interpret a lower property tax rate as the government paying you to farm? I am not following that.

I have no issue with property rates based on use restricted by zoning. But it shouldn't be to encourage anything, aka "empowerment zones".

42 posted on 03/08/2011 8:25:15 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Jotmo
It's every American's patriotic duty to pay as little tax as possible.

Really? Suppose you get your way, and nobody pays any federal tax. What's so patriotic about not having the military, then?

43 posted on 03/08/2011 8:26:54 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: from occupied ga

Watch your libertarian blood pressure


44 posted on 03/08/2011 8:33:59 AM PST by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: TopQuark

non sequitur


45 posted on 03/08/2011 8:35:47 AM PST by Jotmo (Has 0bama fixed my soul yet?)
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To: MileHi
So you and the left agree that NOT taxing more equalls a subsidy?

Not taxing selectively based on who the government wants to reward or punish equals a subsidy or a handout. Yes, it does. If green eyed 45-yr-old men were exempt from income taxes this year, I would get quite a pile of money compared to other people making my same income.

The key to taxation is fairness.

I have a 40 acre plot in So Colorado. Bare ground. My taxes are less than ten bucks a year. For that I get no road maintenance (the land owners do it),no water or sewer and the fire dept is volunteers. If I build the taxes will go up. The services will not.

Yep, I grew up in the most rural and second poorest county in Missouri. So I know what a small tax base is. That said, your argument is a bit spacious. Services meet outlays in small taxing authorities, and are still averaged out. Now let's take those volunteer firefighters who still have to be provided a truck and equipment, you are getting the added service of fire protection (however limited it might be) for a house, vice your bare ground. I presume that if a house was built on every 40 acres, that the community might want to improve emergency services a tad. Or not, up to them.

So a flat milleage rate, determined by the local vote, sounds like as fair a system as you are going to get.

46 posted on 03/08/2011 8:37:45 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: TopQuark
Kerry was guilty only of hypocrisy: there was absolutely nothing wrong with him parking his yacht wherever he wanted.

Actually he broke the tax laws of Massachusetts, he was caught doing it and that is why he had to pay up the $500,000....Read up on it if you want

47 posted on 03/08/2011 8:38:15 AM PST by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: RushingWater
The US must preserve the domestic food production. I'm not sure what is the best way to do this, but this isn't an area for pure global competition market forces.

If you are going to go the protectionist route, tariffs do more for keeping internal market forces healthy than subsidies do. They are far simpler and work at a macro level, vice trying to micromangage production.

Of course tariffs cause many unentended consequences at the macro level.

48 posted on 03/08/2011 8:40:47 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: SampleMan
Not taxing selectively based on who the government wants to reward or punish equals a subsidy or a handout.

It is not selective. Bare ground is ag, improve it with a house and it is not ag.

I presume that if a house was built on every 40 acres, ...

that the taxes would increase on those 40 acre lots accordingly. No matter your eye color or how many movies you made.

49 posted on 03/08/2011 9:01:53 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Jotmo
non sequitur

If you choose to say something so silly, don't put it in such as pretentious form. Intellectual honesty dictates one to exposit his arguments with all the more care the more provocative the claims are.

You've made a provocative claim whereing you declared that paying less taxes is Americn's partiotic duty. To show its invalidity (to the point of silliness) I used reductio ad absurdum by sharpening your own argument: if nobody payed any taxes we would have no defense (or any other public goods) --- how is that partiotic?

Rather than attempting to anwer the question, you are spewing new nonsense. Care to state where the alleged non sequitur has occured? Or, the person that taught you Latin failed to tell you that it is no substitute for logic?

What's the case here, my friend? How is it patriotic not to have defense for America? Kindly explain.

50 posted on 03/08/2011 9:07:33 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
There are no other effects at all? You mean, no impact on the volume of production, on prices?

Effect on volume of production? Not really, as people who are inclined to farm don't take most subsidies. Of course, the subsidies do drive up land prices, so those farmers may in fact put more of their land into production. Farming production is a very flexible figure and market forces remain market forces.

If "x" production occurs to meet "y" prices, then paying some people to reduce production would logically increase price, but that would result in other people producing more until the price falls back to "y". At this point, nothing has been accomplished, but a waste of tax dollars.

Let's assume that Joe's Muffler Shop doesn't do brakes, and you pay 50% of the brake shops in his area to stop doing brakes in order to increase the rate that can be charged for brake jobs. If you are successful in raising those rates, then you are going to see guys like Joe jumping into the brake job business and that will drive the prices right back down. But now you will be paying heavy subsidies to maintain the new status quo.

51 posted on 03/08/2011 9:10:19 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: MileHi

We appear to be in general agreement.


52 posted on 03/08/2011 9:11:59 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: SampleMan
Muffler shop is a non-example because land has finite supply.

But I see your reasoning now. What prompted me to ask was the statement that was too strong: "all the subsidy does..."

Thank you for your reply.

53 posted on 03/08/2011 9:29:32 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: dennisw
Actually he broke the tax laws of Massachusetts, he was caught doing it and that is why he had to pay up the $500,000....Read up on it if you want

I followed your advice. I could not find a single reference to a law he supposedly broke or any article that he was compelled to pay $500,000 by anything other the desire to avoid further controversy.

Could you give me references?

54 posted on 03/08/2011 9:34:40 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: SampleMan

FReegards!


55 posted on 03/08/2011 9:38:23 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: TopQuark
It does not follow that "It's every American's patriotic duty to pay as little tax as possible." leads to "nobody pays any federal tax.", or the implication in that statement which is, "the federal government gets no revenue."

Therefore, your question is based on a false premise.

I'd be happy to answer a question regarding something I actually DID say.

Also, how was the federal government funded at the time of our coutry's founding?

56 posted on 03/08/2011 9:42:16 AM PST by Jotmo (Has 0bama fixed my soul yet?)
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To: TopQuark

Wow that’s a silly argument. If they construct the tax laws in such a way that the populace as a whole can legally pay zero, then they’re either getting their money some other way, or they just plain don’t need it.

Don’t over feed the government, no good ever comes from it. Pay it not one cent more than you absolutely have to by law.


57 posted on 03/08/2011 9:42:24 AM PST by discostu (this is definitely not my confused face)
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To: dennisw
Worlds smallest political quiz
58 posted on 03/08/2011 9:42:33 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: TopQuark

http://www.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view.bg?articleid=1269698


59 posted on 03/08/2011 9:49:11 AM PST by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: from occupied ga

Loop holes not everyone gets to use them.


60 posted on 03/08/2011 9:50:33 AM PST by Vaduz
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