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Mexican truck deal close to final agreement
HOUSTON CHRONICLE ^ | March 10, 2011, 10:15PM | RICHARD S. DUNHAM

Posted on 03/11/2011 8:14:47 PM PST by moonshinner_09

WASHINGTON — The final agreement to end a 2-year-old trucking dispute between the U.S. and Mexico "should be weeks, if not days" away, U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk said Thursday.

At a lunch meeting with reporters, the highest-ranking Texan in the Obama administration said U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Mexican Transportation Minister Humberto Treviño are close to signing the deal that will end an impasse that has cost American businesses about $5 billion in retaliatory tariffs imposed by Mexico. "This could not have been better news and it could not have happened soon enough" for Texas and California agriculture interests, said Kirk, a former Dallas mayor .

Mexico has imposed about $2.4 billion in annual tariffs on U.S. goods going into Mexico in retaliation for the U.S. Congress' 2009 decision to end a pilot project that had allowed as many as 100 Mexican trucking companies to haul cargo across the border. The tariffs are calibrated to make U.S. products uncompetitive in Mexico's market and targeted wine and produce from California, home state of then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: border; immigration; mx; nafta
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Here is what I am not understanding. Mexico imposed about $2.4 billion in annual tariffs on U.S. goods going into Mexico - Mexico's President Felipe Calderon on 3/3/2011 A senior administration official said the U.S. plans to speed up implementation of the $1.4 billion Merida Initiative, with $900 million to be doled out by the end of the year. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to preview the announcement.Deeper into truck story, A tentative deal to end the impasse was announced last week during the Washington visit of Mexican President Felipe Calderón. Mexico promised to cut in half its retaliatory tariffs on 99 U.S. products exported to Mexico immediately upon completion of the negotiations. The remainder of the tariffs would disappear once the first Mexican trucking company is authorized to make deliveries beyond the U.S. border region. So with those cuts why on earth would Mexico come here and be assured by Obama they will get $ 900 million in free money. They are robbing and taking us for everything we got. These trucks will bring drugs,illegals, lords knows what else.Why should Mexico get $ 900 million ?
1 posted on 03/11/2011 8:14:48 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

The latest on this is that our Department of Transportation is going to pay for the electronic on-board recorders (electronic logs) for all the Mexican trucks.
Because, you know, we just have all sorts of extra money lying around.


2 posted on 03/11/2011 8:19:15 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals: drooling buffoons (politicians/media/ bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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" So with those cuts why on earth would Mexico come here and be assured by Obama they will get $ 900 million in free money. They are robbing and taking us for everything we got. These trucks will bring drugs,illegals, lords knows what else.Why should Mexico get $ 900 million ? "


3 posted on 03/11/2011 8:20:11 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: moonshinner_09

I work at a concrete/asphalt recycling plant in San Antonio and the truckers I come across are not happy with this at all and they fear they won’t be able to compete with them.


4 posted on 03/11/2011 8:22:42 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: musicman

LOL that looks about right.


5 posted on 03/11/2011 8:22:42 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Good thread!! BTTT !!!

6 posted on 03/11/2011 8:24:29 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: moonshinner_09

In practice, this won’t be a reciprocal deal. It isn’t safe for US trucks to travel into Mexico and I doubt few will, save for those owners or drivers with Mexican roots.


7 posted on 03/11/2011 8:26:08 PM PST by umgud
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To: moonshinner_09

The politicians have destroyed our manufacturing, our health industry, our universities. Our banking firms, and insurance companies have been badly damaged; they have brought state governments to the brink of bankruptcy; our justice system favors the criminal; aliens flood into the country and immediately are on the dole; and NOW the politicians are in the process of destroying the transportation industry. The politicians are the enemies of the American people and are actively waging war against us.


8 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:05 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: moonshinner_09

Once again we have an article on this story which has been running since 1994 which makes no mention of US trucks operating throughout Mexico. NAFTA was to be a reciprocal agreement so the omission is strange, and I have never seen a report on this topic which even mentions US trucks operating in Mexico. The conclusions that most make are:

1. The US will be open to Mexican trucks and the Mexicans will take great advantage of that.

2. US truckers will have little desire to operate in Mexico dues to lawlessness and dangers of operating in Mexico.

3. So, some significant chuck of the hauling business in the US will go to Mexican truckers and the US truckers will not seek hauls into Mexico because of the dangers.

4. Then we’ll have another trade agreement that simply gives away a chunk of US business for little or nothing in return. A net loss of business for US operators.

If anyone knows differently, I’d like to be shown that this is wrong, but it’s damned strange that this story never seems to mention anything but Mexicans trucks operating in the US.


9 posted on 03/11/2011 8:29:08 PM PST by Will88
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To: moonshinner_09

Another government mandated piece of destruction of the economic health of the nation.

No sector shall remain unmolested other than government bureaucrats.

On one hand, one has to marvel at how incredibly rich the US is to be able to withstand assault from every quarter. On the other hand, imagining what is going to be left after it all collapses, after it is all equalized with Mexico and VietNam is not a pretty picture.


10 posted on 03/11/2011 8:32:10 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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Secure the boarder first


11 posted on 03/11/2011 8:33:41 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Really, what could possibly go wrong? Another one of those situations that, no matter what happens, we pay for it. Congress can still stop this.


12 posted on 03/11/2011 8:37:27 PM PST by La Lydia
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Look for Utah to have the biggest Mexico truck stop in America.They can drop the illegals off there, they can next sign up for amnesty.Next since the Utah Department of Public Safety is allowing residents to sponsor up to two individuals or a family from a foreign country to live in Utah, this should bring in millions of new citizens.The Mormon Church should be careful for what they wish for.Utah will look like a 3rd world country in a year.


13 posted on 03/11/2011 8:38:16 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: La Lydia

Well , finally the drug cartels get easier access to their major market . On the bright side , this is sticking to the teamsters.


14 posted on 03/11/2011 8:39:52 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: Will88

US trucking companies aren’t allowed to travel into Mexico beyond the border zone. What happens now is they drop their loaded trailers at the border, and a Mexican trucking company driver picks up the trailer and delivers it to the destination in Mexico. Then, they pick up another load and bring the trailer back to the border, where the US trucking company picks it back up (usually the trailer is missing all sortsof parts and has tires a lot older than it went in with).

Many of the large US trucking fleets have partnerships with some of the large Mexican trucking companies that carry out this business.


15 posted on 03/11/2011 8:45:06 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals: drooling buffoons (politicians/media/ bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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To: fantom

And they can offer reduce savings on drugs since expenses will be reduce in cost of shipping drugs here.


16 posted on 03/11/2011 8:46:23 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: Newtoidaho
US trucking companies aren’t allowed to travel into Mexico beyond the border zone.

I know how things have worked since NAFTA went into effect with the border drops, etc., and that the trucking part of NAFTA has never been fully implemented because of US objections to Mexicans trucks for various reasons.

But are you saying the agreement was intended to allow Mexican trucks to operate throughout the US, but to not allow US trucks to operate throughout Mexico when fully implemented?

17 posted on 03/11/2011 8:51:18 PM PST by Will88
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The politicians are the enemies of the American people and are actively waging war against us.

The consequense of sleeping, trusting, allowing and believing, we MUST reverse the tide, we MUST take back what is ours, we MUST not waver!


18 posted on 03/11/2011 8:55:28 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( V)
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To: Will88

It will be reciprocal, US trucks and drivers would be allowed to travel into Mexico beyond the border zone. But no US trucking company is going to be likely to do that considering what is going on in that country. And few US drivers would likely be willing to go in, except maybe with a heavily armed escort. Kind of like the US drivers who went over to Iraq and drove there as civilians during the Iraq war. Made a lot of money, had some serious armor around the convoy, but even still quite a few were killed.


19 posted on 03/11/2011 9:06:35 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals: drooling buffoons (politicians/media/ bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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To: Newtoidaho
It will be reciprocal, US trucks and drivers would be allowed to travel into Mexico beyond the border zone.

Well, unless something happens to change Obama's agreement with Mexico, then were are at the point where Mexicans trucks will be allowed to operate throughout the US, but few if any US trucks will choose to operate in Mexico because of he lawlessness. Just one more idiotic aspect of a trade deal that gives away US business for little or nothing in return.

20 posted on 03/11/2011 9:20:42 PM PST by Will88
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