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So I challenge you to offer facts, and you offer opinions. No problem, I can respect your opinions even if I don't agree with them. But opinions aren't always facts, so I'll lay it out for you one more time.

Present for me any class action lawsuit organized by men, on behalf of men, and supported by men until won, against any institution that has historically discriminated against men, where male politicians expressed support, and that wasn't shot down by a male judge.

If your next post doesn't answer this directly, then I will rightly conclude you can't.

So I challenge you to offer facts, and you offer opinions.

Did you link us to that diatribe or not Sparky? Well, yes you did. And so far rather than defend it on merit, you have tried to change the subject. That's not going to happen, until you address the trash you linked us to.

No problem, I can respect your opinions even if I don't agree with them.

No you can't. You don't respect my opinion enough to respond on point. And if you don't respect me enough not to link me to that diatribe, it's ludacrist to say you respect my opinion.

That writer had no respect for me whatsoever, and neither do you.

Defend what you linked me to. When we're done with that issue we'll move on, and not until unless you want to bow out, too embarrassed to actually defend what this ass hat clown wrote.

But opinions aren't always facts, so I'll lay it out for you one more time.

You are rather dense aren't you. First you link me to a diatribe attacking men from the (stereotypical) point of view of that of a menopausal women. I call you on that, and you immediately try to change the subject to the supposed topic this guy was trying to advance. I've told you I'm not going to let you get away with that, so you ramp up the attempt to goad me into changing the subject. No.

In my posts to you, I have stated that I did not think men were getting a fair shake, but this wasn't good enough for you. You seem to have some insecure need to make it look like you're taking the high ground here, when you're linking folks to the diatribe of a bottom feeding asshole. Then you pass this off as a mere difrerence of opinion. Bud, there's no defense of that diatribe and you should know that. If you don't, you really don't have the tools to discuse important matters like this one.

Present for me any class action lawsuit organized by men, on behalf of men, and supported by men until won, against any institution that has historically discriminated against men, where male politicians expressed support, and that wasn't shot down by a male judge.

If your next post doesn't answer this directly, then I will rightly conclude you can't.

And I'll rightly conclude that you are trying to change the subject to cover your ass for trying to inimate that diatribe you linked us to was reasoned.