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new big aftershock in sendai area
cnn international | 3-12-11 | Secret Agent Man

Posted on 03/12/2011 3:42:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man

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To: ml/nj
We used to test hydrogen bombs right here in the USA and somehow we all lived.

It's matter of scale. The typical fission weapon probably has about 20 pounds of plutonium-239 plus some amount of uranium-238 as a tamper/booster....maybe a few hundred pounds.

The reactor core will contain dozens to a hundred or more TONS of fissile and breeding material.

Better hope the geometry of the core doesn't lend to criticality issues. The fact that they're adding boron to the water they're pumping says they're trying to keep the neutron count down.

141 posted on 03/12/2011 7:24:16 PM PST by stboz
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To: Secret Agent Man

Thank you, but we don’t have basements in Florida. There are designated shelters in the area, though I don’t know how safe they really are. I bought iodine tablets after 9/11, but don’t know if they are still viable. Read somewhere they don’t expire.


142 posted on 03/12/2011 7:59:15 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: rfreedom4u
Let's think about it. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were actually bombed in 1945, mushroom clouds actually rose thousands of feet into the air. Did we get radiated here in the states. Not so you could notice it. Are Nagasaki and Hiroshima livable now? Yes they are despite the warning that it would be thousands of years before people could live there. We set off many, many nukes in Nevada during the 1940s, 50s and 60s before testing was stopped. Were anyone in the US, outside of some poor soldiers used for tests in the 40s, harmed by radiation? No. When we Nuked Bikini atoll did the fall out make anyone here sick? No. Is Chernobyl livable again now? Yes, large areas are. Were we harmed by the radiation? No.

So now we have, maybe, a melt down in Japan. There are no mushroom clouds rising into the air thousands of feet. The radiation will stay close to the ground and most of it, what there is, will go into the sea. We have nothing to worry about here except for liberals trying to use it as another scare tactic.

The only people in danger are the Japanese, but the hysteria on this site is almost unbelievable.

143 posted on 03/12/2011 8:28:42 PM PST by calex59
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To: Secret Agent Man

K1 pills? where would I find these?


144 posted on 03/12/2011 8:40:51 PM PST by oust the louse (Mr. Obama is a left-wing ideologue who believes in the greatness of Fedzilla.)
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To: varina davis

If they are kept in relatively cool and dry areas in tight containers they can last a very long time. Not much to them.


145 posted on 03/12/2011 8:56:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: oust the louse

KI (potassium iodine) pills, you can probably try your pharmacist, they should have some on hand. If not places like “Cheaper than dirt” or perhaps even sportsmans guide carry some for order.

Your local health food/supply store may stock KI tablets too.


146 posted on 03/12/2011 8:59:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: silverleaf

Thanks for that informed info.


147 posted on 03/12/2011 9:03:09 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: calex59

Good things to consider.

I am just wondering if this may produce something more severe as the actual amount of fuel that can emit radiation is so much bigger than the fuel consumed in the bomb blast.

It’s all hypothetical at this point anyway as far as I know because I haven’t heard of anything going out of control.


148 posted on 03/12/2011 9:03:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Bikkuri
All well in Chiba/Tokyo area atm..

That is good to hear. My wife has a cousin working in the Tokyo area. We hope the wind does not blow towards Tokyo from the nuclear reactors. If the wind changes and heads south, please let us know.

149 posted on 03/12/2011 9:06:16 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: justa-hairyape

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/cesium.html#wheredoes

“How does cesium-137 get into the environment?

Cesium-137 in the environment came from a variety of sources. The largest single source was fallout from atmospheric nuclear weapons tests in the 1950s and 1960s, which dispersed and deposited cesium-137 world-wide. However much of the cesium-137 from testing has now decayed.

Nuclear reactor waste and accidental releases such as the Chernobyl accident in the Ukraine release some cesium-137 to the environment. Spent nuclear fuel reprocessing plant wastes may introduce small amounts to the environment. However, the U.S. does not currently reprocess spent nuclear fuel.

“Although hospitals and research laboratories generate wastes containing cesium-137, they usually do not enter the environment. Occasionally, industrial instruments containing cesium-137 are lost or stolen. Anyone who unwittingly handles them may be exposed. These devices are typically metal, and may be considered scrap metal and sold for recycling. If they find their way into a steel mill and are melted, they can cause significant environmental contamination. They may also be discarded and sent to a municipal landfill, or sold for other reasons. These devices should be considered dangerous. “

My point was that there are numerous sources of Cesium-137 in the environment beside a meltdown.


150 posted on 03/12/2011 9:22:18 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: stboz

http://www.nucleartourist.com/basics/hlwaste.htm

“A 1000 MWe reactor has about 100 metric tons of uranium dioxide fuel, of which 3 to 5 tons consist of the fissile U-235.”


151 posted on 03/12/2011 9:44:15 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: meyer
I believe that there has been some damage to the fuel rods where low water levels allowed melting of the metal housing of the fuel rods themselves,..

Apparently the fuel rods have to crack or open up for the Cesium to be released. The question is what caused the fuel rods to fail. The best answer - They partially melted down. Not a full reactor core meltdown. Just a few exposed rod areas.

152 posted on 03/12/2011 10:31:30 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: BwanaNdege
My point was that there are numerous sources of Cesium-137 in the environment beside a meltdown.

Japanese officials have now confirmed partial meltdowns in two reactors. That is where the Cesium came from.

153 posted on 03/12/2011 10:33:28 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Bikkuri

We cannot share your suffering, but we are with you in sorrow, and in spirit pray for your strength and calm.


154 posted on 03/13/2011 9:07:55 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SevenofNine

155 posted on 03/13/2011 10:10:21 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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