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Japan, Radiation Fallout and Iodine Recommendations
Dr. Brownstein's Blog ^ | 3/12/11 | Dr. Brownstein

Posted on 03/12/2011 5:00:54 PM PST by spacejunkie01

There's alot of confusion about taking iodine to ward off radiation poisoning. Dr. Brownstein is an expert in iodine/iodide usage and has written a blog specifically for the radiation.

Inorganic, non radiated iodine does not cause allergies. Most symptoms that people may connect to iodine and assume they are allergic are actually bromine detox symptoms.

Whether we're faced with radiation coming to this country or not, we should all take iodine for health. Deficiency in iodine is known to cause breast cancer, fibroids, thyroid cancer, ovarian and prostate cancer.

(Excerpt) Read more at breastcancerchoices.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: iodine; japan; japanearthquake; potassiumiodide; radiation; thyroid
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With the terrible earthquake in Japan, let’s send thoughts, prayers as well as assistance to the Japanese.

I have had inquiries about the use of iodine to prevent problems secondary to the nuclear fallout that will occur. As the Japanese nuclear reactors release radiation into the air, the jet streams will push this radiation to the Western U.S. and Canada. There are estimates that the radiation fallout will reach the Western side of N. American in six to ten days. Furthermore, I have seen estimates that it is expected that 750 RADS may contaminate these areas.

How much is 750 RADS? One chest x-ray is approximately 3/100 RADS. One CT scan is 1 RAD.

Folks, potentially this is a lot of radiation. Fortunately, we have an item that can prevent this fallout from damaging us: iodine. If there is enough inorganic, non-radioactive iodine in our bodies, the radioactive fallout has nowhere to bind in our bodies. IT will pass through, unharmed.

It is important to ensure that we have adequate iodine levels BEFORE this fallout hits. How much iodine is recommended?

The CDC recommends using iodine to prevent injury form radioactive iodine fallout. Adults and women who are breastfeeding should take 130mg of potassium iodide. Children who are between 3 and 18 years of age should take 65mg of potassium iodide. Children who are adult size should take the adult dose. Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 32mg of potassium iodide. Newborns from birth to one month of age should be given 16mg of potassium iodide.

1 posted on 03/12/2011 5:00:56 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

interesting.

my doc has me on iodine.


2 posted on 03/12/2011 5:04:29 PM PST by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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To: spacejunkie01

When should you take iodine? For an acute exposure, you want to take
iodine just before the exposure hits. Iodine is cleared out of the body within
24 to 72 hours after taking it. However, If you have been using ortho-
iodosupplementation as I describe in my books and lectures (taking from 6-
50mg/day of iodine and iodide), you should be covered. Remember, the
goal is to not let the radioactive iodine bind in the body.

Potassium iodide can be found in many health food stores. Combinations of
iodide/iodine can be obtained from holistic physicians. Iodoral, Iodozyme
HP, and Lugol’s solution are examples of this form of iodine. For long-term
treatment, combinations are much more effective. More information about
this can be found in my book, Iodine Why You Need It, Why You Can’t Live
Without It, 4th Edition (available at www.drbrownstein.com).

I do not recommend starting the first dose of iodine right now. It is important
to follow the news reports and supplement accordingly. I would suggest
starting iodine supplements within one to two days of the expected fallout. If
the fallout is expected to continue, you may need to take more than one
dose of iodine. I will keep you updated as I find out more information.


3 posted on 03/12/2011 5:05:08 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

Where can you buy KI pills? Do local retailers carry them?


4 posted on 03/12/2011 5:05:41 PM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against thos against good government.")
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To: spacejunkie01

Better put your flame suit on.

There’s a wagonload of jerks out there who will be coming by to tell you how big a fool you are for even thinking that this could cause a problem.

Fortunately, it’s easy to ignore the ignorant.

My recommendation is don’t do anything UNLESS you hear about elevated radiation levels where you are (or approaching where you are).


5 posted on 03/12/2011 5:07:39 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: spacejunkie01

The best place to buy it and the best product to buy is Iodoral at www.breastcancerchoices.org


6 posted on 03/12/2011 5:08:12 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

What if you are allergic to seafood? Isn’t that iodine?


7 posted on 03/12/2011 5:08:29 PM PST by Shire
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To: spacejunkie01

Is that scenario for 1 reactor meltdown or does it include others that may melt down as well?


8 posted on 03/12/2011 5:09:11 PM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against thos against good government.")
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To: djf

I’m a huge advocate of iodine even without the threat of radiation.


9 posted on 03/12/2011 5:09:30 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: djf

Better safe than sorry. I am buying some KI pills.


10 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:01 PM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against thos against good government.")
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To: rfreedom4u

email the people at the breast cancer choices site. they’ll get RIGHT back to you and answer your questions. I don’t believe you should just take iodide though...it should be both iodine and iodide together, which is iodoral, lugol’s, etc.


11 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:04 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

750 RADS is way beyond a lethal human dose.

Taking iodine won’t help you if that is the actual radiation dose.


12 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:04 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Shire

You are either allergic to the seafood itself, or you are having bromine detox symptoms from the iodine in the food. Iodine is a VERY potent detox and it pushes bromine off of your iodine receptors into your body and some of the symptoms can be crappy and certainly misconstrued as an allergic reaction.


13 posted on 03/12/2011 5:12:59 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01
There are estimates that the radiation fallout will reach the Western side of N. American in six to ten days. Furthermore, I have seen estimates that it is expected that 750 RADS may contaminate these areas.

Where's that "Ah Geez" graphic?

14 posted on 03/12/2011 5:13:48 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: spacejunkie01

Well, I personally have somewhat low thyroid. I can tell with a simple thermometer.

So about once a week, i use a bit of tincture of Iodine, and make sure I get enough zinc and selenium and Vit C.

And my temperature is much more level now, and my energy levels are pretty much normal.

Plus I sleep one heck of alot better.

I mean they put iodine in salt because THEY REALIZED THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT GETTING ENOUGH IODINE!!!

Then they came back AND TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO USE AS MUCH SALT!!!

Doesn’t take a braniac to figure that all out...


15 posted on 03/12/2011 5:15:06 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: djf

I’d just add that the younger you are the more important it is to take iodide if there’s a chance at being exposed to radio active fallout.


16 posted on 03/12/2011 5:15:56 PM PST by DB
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To: ken21

“iodine” or Potassium IoDIDE?


17 posted on 03/12/2011 5:18:37 PM PST by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: djf; spacejunkie01

And you know they’ll be the ones pushing and shoving to get to the front of the line if it hits the fan. It doesn’t hurt a thing to be aware and prepared.


18 posted on 03/12/2011 5:18:44 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: djf

Agreed. It’s a crucial element.

The Japanese people get an average of 14mg/day of iodine. The RDA in the US is 150 mcg. They’re getting almost 100x more iodine daily and don’t have breast/prostate/thyroid cancer because of it.


19 posted on 03/12/2011 5:20:06 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

What should those of us who are hypothyroid be taking? I am taking synthetic thyroid, and still feel crummy, and can’t lose weight.

Would additional iodine be helpful? Is there a test to see if one is iodine deficient?


20 posted on 03/12/2011 5:21:42 PM PST by jacquej
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To: goodnesswins

iodoral

high potency iodine/potassium iodide supplement.

and iodine 5 mg

iodide 7.5 mg


21 posted on 03/12/2011 5:22:44 PM PST by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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To: jacquej

see if you can get armour thyroid.


22 posted on 03/12/2011 5:24:06 PM PST by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ya, those “estimates” can’t be based on much. By the time it gets here, if there really was a large release, it ought to be dispersed pretty widely and therefore relatively weak. But radioactive fallout even in low dosages isn’t good for kids. Being momentarily exposed to radiation verses inhaling radio active dust aren’t the same thing, the dust has longer term consequences.


23 posted on 03/12/2011 5:24:23 PM PST by DB
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To: djf

what does your temperature run without iodine?


24 posted on 03/12/2011 5:24:48 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: spacejunkie01

I take a 150microgram iodine kelp supplement. Low level like that should be good for you anyway.


25 posted on 03/12/2011 5:26:15 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: spacejunkie01

And btw, if it’s 750rads/hour nothing’s going to help. After about 20 minutes you’ve had a lethal dose and will linger and die.

At 750 you probably would be luckier if it was 75000 cause at least then you’ll go quick.


26 posted on 03/12/2011 5:27:06 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: spacejunkie01

Then KI ain’t gonna help anyone on the west coast...

They all die.

Get a grip.


27 posted on 03/12/2011 5:28:27 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: DBrow

Correct. An adult will start have GI bleeding around 250-300 REMs/RADS and has a good chance at croaking. 500 rems/rads and it’s byebye for real...but there are some new meds that were approved by FDA back ~ 2004 that may help but 750 would mean everyone would have to hunmker down in their basements for several days at least.


28 posted on 03/12/2011 5:30:20 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: bgill
And you know they’ll be the ones pushing and shoving to get to the front of the line if it hits the fan. It doesn’t hurt a thing to be aware and prepared.

Yup.
And I have some words for those folks.
140 and 155 gr words...
29 posted on 03/12/2011 5:34:28 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: jacquej

people that are hypo, hyper, hashimoto’s, etc., all should be taking the ‘right’ iodine supplement. Iodine is what facilitates your body’s ability to manufacture the thyroid hormone but every cell requires iodine. It is particularly crucial for reproductive organ health. I believe what happens with hyperthyroid is that the thyroid is getting the bulk of the thyroid and the rest of the body is depleted whereas, hypo people have more iodine in their other cells but the thyroid is depleted. My 2c theory is that people with hyperthyroidism are more apt to get breast cancer than hypo people.

There is an iodine test called a loading test. You can definitely do that (it’s a urine test) but I would say 99% you will be deficient in iodine. In fact, Dr. Brownstein (or Abrahams, another good iodine doc) said they’ve essentially stopped the iodine loading as they were all coming back deficient.

If you live in the mid/upper mid west, you most likely live in what’s called the goiter belt, as iodine is very low in the soil there and people are not getting it in their diet. To make matters worse, flouride, chlorine and bromine ALL block iodine absorption.


30 posted on 03/12/2011 5:34:52 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: RummyChick

96-97, thereabouts..

Usually about 97.2
Sometimes as low as 95


31 posted on 03/12/2011 5:37:34 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: Tolsti2

150mcg just isn’t enough with all the other things that are up against it like massive amounts of flouride/chlorine/bromine. These mimic iodine and block absorption so the very low doses aren’t getting absorbed. The higher doses, or pulse dosing (higher a few days then lower a few days,etc) will flush out the toxic halides and allow you to absorb it.


32 posted on 03/12/2011 5:38:40 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: spacejunkie01

This should say ‘the body is getting the bulk of the IODINE’, not thyroid...


33 posted on 03/12/2011 5:40:41 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: djf

Have you ever taken your temperature in your ear??

I run low like you when done by mouth but my ear temperature is above normal


34 posted on 03/12/2011 5:43:23 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: spacejunkie01

And to clarify, the adult dose per day, 130 milligrams, is generally one tablet. Split the tablet and you have 2 65 mg doses, quarter it for small child doses, and cut the quarter dosess in half for babies.


35 posted on 03/12/2011 5:44:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: djf
Nope, there are a wagonload of folks that are tired of the fear mongering and BS. We nuked Japan twice. With dirty bombs. In the atmosphere. I don't remember any radiation related deaths on the west coast.

/johnny

36 posted on 03/12/2011 5:47:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: spacejunkie01

I use 5% Lugols to go along with my Armour. My entire family gets a dose of Iodine first thing in the morning. Most Americans do not get enough iodine.


37 posted on 03/12/2011 5:48:20 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Shire

Yes, some people have reactions because of that. If you are allergic, generally the recommendation is not to take it. You however, can still be protected by building an area in your basement to stay in that uses concrete block, wood, etc to help absorb radiation to prevent it from getting to you. It’s the gamma radiation that you need to stop, alpha and beta will be stopped from your house walls, mostly. Gamma needs to be stopped by denser materials.


38 posted on 03/12/2011 5:49:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: EBH

I would not say that.

If they are indoors in the basement under heavy shelter material and stay there for a day or two most of that radiation will break down. Not being outdoors directly exposed sure, you are in trouble.


39 posted on 03/12/2011 5:51:51 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: armymarinemom

excellent. Lugol’s is the liquid form of Iodoral. Both are good.

How many drops are you all doing per day?


40 posted on 03/12/2011 5:55:54 PM PST by spacejunkie01
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To: Secret Agent Man

Doctor said it was an allergy to iodine. Hives all over and swollen mouth on the inside. I even get the hives in my hair and down in my ears and it itches like crazy!


41 posted on 03/12/2011 5:56:04 PM PST by Shire
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To: JRandomFreeper
I went to the North-Western US's largest gun show today and couldn't believe that some huckster wasn't there capitalizing on the Japanese fallout scare by selling Potassium Iodide pills for 100 times the price they're sold at any GNC store.

Oh, you find guys selling all the usual panic gear: Sealed tubs of dehydrated food, sealed O-ringed tubes to hide your guns inside out in the forest, boxes of MREs, water filtration units, bibles with glow-in-the-dark pages, and so on... but not one KI pill to be found anywhere. No mention of them either.

Sort of proves to me that the black helicopter crowd doesn't even believe their own apocalyptic nonsense.

42 posted on 03/12/2011 5:56:57 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: spacejunkie01

Right now. 8. Sounds very high but I was hypothyroid a very long time. I plan to dose down to 4 which would equal 50mgs in about 6 months.


43 posted on 03/12/2011 6:10:13 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: spacejunkie01

Wouldn’t adding a little dry seaweed to our diets give us plenty of iodine?

There’s a Korean grocery store chain called H-Mart and they always have cheap seaweed sheets, the stuff people use to wrap sushi.


44 posted on 03/12/2011 6:21:11 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: spacejunkie01

How much is 750 RADS? One chest x-ray is approximately 3/100 RADS. One CT scan is 1 RAD. >>>>>>>>>>

750 RADS are not heading our way. 750 might be what you get right next to a damaged Japanese nuclear plant. Dr Brownstein is way off on this one


45 posted on 03/12/2011 6:23:55 PM PST by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: spacejunkie01; Jeff Chandler; ken21; djf; DBrow; DB; goodnesswins; bgill; EBH; Domestic Church; ...
Hey everyone. Calm down. Have a seat. I just want to talk to you to help you all calm down about this thing.

Please, I know this is long, but take a minute to read through it. Hopefully I can explain why this particular 750 Rad thing is bogus, and when you see how off the charts bogus it is, it will help put everything in a more reasonable perspective.

I am not flaming you or anyone else for saying this 750 Rad thing. I am not saying this to belittle you. You just don't understand the mechanics of radiation and what is being thrown out there, and it is getting you and everyone who reads it on edge.

I am on your side, and I am not saying there is nothing to worry about. Anytime you have a bunch of nuclear reactors that have problems of this magnitude, yes, there is a problem and we SHOULD be concerned.

There are a lot of things to be concerned about, but there is no reason to get crazy about this 750 RADS thing you hear. There are people out there throwing these numbers around, moving decimal points three ways to one side or another, not realizing they are doing it, mistaking millicuries for curies, Rads for millirems, sieverts for grays, and so on. Look. Don't get crazed. When someone tells you that 750 Rads are going to contaminate an area, it is nonsensical. The units are wrong. It is like telling someone they need a kilometer of flour to bake a loaf of bread. It is nonsensical and irresponsible, because it is scaring the crap out of people.

Here's the thing. A Rad measures the amount of absorbed radiation on something. Not the amount of radiation, but the amount of energy transferred to something, typically human flesh. (note, you may hear someone refer to rads and rems...for the purposes of human flesh and discussion, they both mean about the same thing...so we will just stick to "rads" because that is what you hear out there a lot) Basically, a Rad measures EXPOSURE to radiation.

If you hear someone mention curies, millicuries or megacuries, that is an amount of decays of an isotope in a given amount of time. When you know what the isotope is, and you know how much energy or what kind of energy is given off when that particular isotope decays, then you have an idea how much radiation there will be.

When you know THAT, then you can figure out how much exposure human flesh will get in a given amount of time when exposed to certain levels of that radiation, and that exposure is measured in Rads.

Now. Here is the thing. EVERYONE gets exposure to radiation, and when your tissue absorbs that radiation, you get exposed to a certain amount of rads of radiation. We ALL get exposed. The average annual exposure to the average person living on this planet is 310 millirem. That is very, very small. That is .31 Rads, spread out over a year. Think of it as eating a cup of salt. Would it be bad for you if you took a cup of salt, mixed it in a glass of water and drank it in one minute? You bet it would be bad. But if you eat that cup of salt over the period of a year, you would probably be fine, but if you eat that much all the time, you will probably have cumulative problems from it, right? Radiation is the same. If you get it spread out over time, it isn't that bad, your body fixes it, but a fair amount over time might have cumulative effects.

I worked in nuclear medicine for 15 years, and I was allowed to have up to 5 rads (that is 5,000 mrad, but we refer to it as mrem or a millirem) a year of exposure to my body. I could have a lot more than that to my hands, which I probably did. But I was allowed to get up to 50 Rads (that's 50,000 mrad!!!!) over the course of a year to my hands because you don't have much in your hands that can be damaged by radiation. I am still here. And I worked with people who handled radiation at much higher levels than I did, and they are in their eighties now, without a problem.

So, back to this 750 Rad thing.

The have a measurement they use called the "LD50/30" dose. It means, the amount of radiation (Rads) that a person can get at one time, all in one shot, that will give you a 50% probability of being dead in 30 days. That amount of radiation is about 600 Rads, more or less. So you can see, if people in California were to get 750 Rads, there would be a huge amount of dead people. That is not, I repeat NOT going to happen. It isn't possible given the amounts of radiation even likely to be released in a worst case scenario.

I can answer questions on this if you want, just post back. There are a lot of people who know a lot more about radiation than I do, and I haven't been working with it for about 15 years now, but I am right as rain on this. If you have questions, I can at least give you a ballpark answer or point you in the right direction if I don't know.

With the terrible, terrible things going on in the world, we have much to be concerned about, but getting a lethal dose of radiation is not one of them. We are more at risk of dying of starvation or freezing to death because our politicians in power are doing their best to destroy our economy and energy industries. Trust me on this.

46 posted on 03/12/2011 6:41:27 PM PST by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: rlmorel

Good post

Additional reasons why this is not Chernobyl ...

- outstanding construction; reactors built for a high-seismic zone
- withstood 8.9 magnitude quake, which exceeded design criteria
- explosion was most likely a steam explosion (radioactive steam) ... giving good reason to believe the primary containment structure is intact

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fukushima-explosion-update-core-presumed-intact-sea-water-used-bring-temperature-down-radiat


47 posted on 03/12/2011 6:51:53 PM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: rlmorel

I would have to say that at this time, I agree the risk is small.

But I DO NOT agree that the risk is non-existent.

One thing that they have seen time and time again when there is a nuclear incident is it’s not at all predictable about what ares get how much. Some areas downwind get by and receive almost no radiation at all.
Other areas get doses that are far, far beyond what the models predict.

And I think it’s a good thing that people can come to the forum and ask questions and discuss things. They openly admit they do not know everything. They are just trying to find out more.

Now there is a certain contingent of knowitalls who come and do nothing constructive, and just heap scorn.
Well I’m not happy that the knowitalls simply didn’t just warn us this was going to happen a week ago.

I guess we should humbly bow to their overpowering flatulence.

;-)

Thanks for the info. There has always been alot of confusion when it comes to rads and rems and LD50 number.
But one thing is sure: less is better than more!


48 posted on 03/12/2011 6:54:11 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: djf

We are in agreement...I don’t believe the risk is non-existent either, unless someone is saying we are going to each get a 750 Rad dose on the west coast.

Then, yes...THAT particular risk is non-existent. But there are a lot of other risks...yes.


49 posted on 03/12/2011 6:55:48 PM PST by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: rlmorel

Excellent, people need to know the units and what they mean. Fearmongers play to the populace’s ignorance and you are clearing some fog.


50 posted on 03/12/2011 6:57:26 PM PST by DBrow
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