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Poll Confirms America's Entitlement Culture...Even Among Tea Partiers
Big Government ^ | March 13, 2011 | Brad Schaeffer

Posted on 03/13/2011 8:02:16 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Hoodat

LBJ removed Social Security from a “trust fund” and put it into regular spending to give the illusion of a balanced 1969 budget. The American people then voted for Nixon, who turned around and expanded the LBJ programs! The American people don’t read the fine print from politicians.


141 posted on 03/14/2011 6:40:31 AM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sadly many freepers are still in utter denial as t reality in that respect.


142 posted on 03/14/2011 6:41:03 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Although I knew how things stood when I posted my initial comment, I have found this thread very depressing. A huge number of freepers seem focused on one thing and one thing only -- "I want the government to send me a check".

The government forcibly taxed them for years, and now they want "what they deserve". There seems to be this thought among many freepers that the federal government is an honorable, trustworthy institution and that promises will be kept. The idea that government put a gun to their head and just completely robbed them seems foreign to many here. They cannot grasp it. They want the mugger to send them monthly checks and are shocked at the thought that this may not actually occur.

143 posted on 03/14/2011 6:48:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Its like Madoffs’ victims demandng all their money back and waiving their monthly statements around.

Did you see my thread about a month ago where P. Schiff got the trustee of SS to admit THERE IS NO TRUST FUND?


144 posted on 03/14/2011 7:01:18 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: sourcery

“We’ve been TAXED, and the funds have all been spent...”

And guess who spent that money? The politicians. We can start righting the SS ship by confiscating the wealth of all the politcians and attendant leeches who stole that money. Let’s start by confiscating the wealth of LBJ, including all cash and property.


145 posted on 03/14/2011 7:01:57 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I saw it. The truth is out there, but some refuse to see.


146 posted on 03/14/2011 7:06:49 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hoodat

LBJ removed Social Security from a “trust fund” and put it into regular spending to give the illusion of a balanced 1969 budget. The American people then voted for Nixon, who turned around and expanded the LBJ programs! The American people don’t read the fine print from politicians.


147 posted on 03/14/2011 7:07:39 AM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How many of us would be willing to fore go future social security benefits in exchange for being permitted to opt out of the system now? They can keep all the money they stole from me if I would be allowed to not have any more money stolen for this Ponzi scheme. I'd take that deal in a second.
148 posted on 03/14/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by hdbc (1/20/13 End of an Error.)
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To: napscoordinator
You're right. Something doesn't add up. I suspect it's just one huge pot they just raid at will. Certainly the total ingo doesn't equal the outgo.
149 posted on 03/14/2011 7:22:04 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: trapped_in_LA

Exactly. Anything I would receive would be taxed, printed, or borrowed.


150 posted on 03/14/2011 7:26:20 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Which is of course why I put in on my list.


151 posted on 03/14/2011 7:40:42 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Graybeard58

....just keep that cash register ringing!

152 posted on 03/14/2011 9:14:04 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: schu
The die is cast, IMHO, it is simply a matter of when and the details of what form the collapse takes.

And the delima my family is in now is take off to Costa Rica and retire in luxury for $1,000 a month (husband's choice)or stay on our farm and provide safety and sustenance to our extended family who are all living in the city and will come running to us when and if it collapes.

153 posted on 03/14/2011 9:44:30 AM PDT by thirst4truth (The left elected a mouth that is unattached to an eye, brain or muscle.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We've all been conned! SS is not a forced savings account it's a TAX! plain and simple, It's a tax just like income tax. You don't expect to get your income taxes back when you retire do you? No, but the BS we've been fed about the lock box and other nonsense that implies that the money they take from us is “ours” is false. The Supreme Court has ruled that SS is a tax. That's the message we need to get out. You have not contributed to a forced savings account you have been taxed under a con better than Ponzi ever dreamed of.
154 posted on 03/14/2011 10:25:26 AM PDT by mistfree (The Law! How Quaint.)
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To: mistfree
We've all been conned!

100% right on the money.

FDR pulled the perfect sting on the populace. In those days, life span was average less than the retirement age, so the gov got to keep all that boodle.

it is still a tax, but now, the unwashed masses got the nerve to live longer, curses, foiled again. What to do, what to do?

Oh, hey, how about we move the retirement age?

Everybody nods in agreement at the wonderful and sage wisdom demonstrated, while they are being stung once again.

Fools.

155 posted on 03/14/2011 10:34:20 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: 101voodoo

The interest on money in SS does not exist


156 posted on 03/14/2011 12:45:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I am not sure I believe this poll. It is too pat. Modifying SS to save money is the easy answer, and it will make a difference. I don't believe all those Tea Partiers are unwilling to give at least something on this--increased retirement age, means testing, other simple measures perhaps. In fact the more I think about it the more I think this poll was just bogus.

The biggest potential liability is Medicare, anyway, which will end up dwarfing Social Security if nothing changes.

157 posted on 03/14/2011 1:46:16 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: midwyf

I totally agree it needs fixed now.

It won’t “viable” as long as you give people back more than they put in. And that’s what we’re doing on a wide scale.

Spreading the damage to others in not a “fix” and doesn’t make it viable. It is simply more of the welfare state spreading peoples wealth around and then wondering why jobs are disappearing and our economic hole keeps getting deeper...


158 posted on 03/14/2011 2:07:15 PM PDT by DB
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To: Graybeard58

Mine doesn’t. My insurance through my company is primary and Medicare, if I take it, is secondary. We paid my husband’s Medicare premium for a while but dropped it because my insurance is good enough that we didn’t need it. They said that if we needed to pick it back up we could but my employer doesn’t force it.

Of course, things can change. :-(


159 posted on 03/14/2011 4:24:40 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: napscoordinator

Social Insurance tax isn’t just Social Security tax. It includes other taxes too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_%28United_States%29#Tax_on_wages_and_self-employment_income


160 posted on 03/14/2011 5:06:49 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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