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Let’s stop pretending ( Fogel massacre )
Jerusalem Post ^ | ITAMAR MARCUS AND NAN JACQUES ZILBERDIK

Posted on 03/14/2011 9:56:12 AM PDT by ventanax5

The Palestinian Authority and its leaders share the blame for the murders of those five Israelis from Itamar on Friday – including two children and an infant – along with the terrorists who committed them. It is the PA and its leaders who have prepared the ground for these murders with the incessant incitement to hatred and the glorification of violence and terror.

In spite of its conciliatory statements in English, the PA continues to use all the structures it controls to demonize Israelis and to promote violence. Terrorists are presented as heroes and role models for Palestinians, teaching that killing Israelis is a way to earn eternal fame.

Just two months ago, PA President Mahmoud Abbas sent a clear message of support for terror when he awarded $2000 to the family of a terrorist who attacked IDF soldiers. Last week, the PA’s official daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida announced a football tournament named after Wafa Idris, the first female Palestinian suicide bomber, and three weeks ago PA TV, which is under the direct control of Abbas’s office, broadcast videos glorifying the terrorist Habash Hanani, who in May 2002 entered Itamar and murdered three Israeli students. Twice the PA named summer camps after the terrorist Dalal Mughrabi, who in 1978 led the most deadly attack in Israel’s history in which 37 civilians were killed in a bus hijacking, both in 2008 and again this past summer.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; fogel; islam; israel; mediabias; mediaterrorists; murder; muslims; obamasfault; pa; palestinians; terrorsympathizers; wot
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1 posted on 03/14/2011 9:56:16 AM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

“Palestinians” don’t want peace. this attack was intended to further polarize the parties.


2 posted on 03/14/2011 10:01:17 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ventanax5

Let’s stop pretending. The majority of American Jews (along with union Catholics, African Americans, malcontents, liberals) who voted for the islamic are partially responsible for this. In 2009, the son of allah sent the Palestinians at least $800 million to kill Jews.

What is even more incredible is a majority of American Jews still worship him.


3 posted on 03/14/2011 10:03:43 AM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: ventanax5



4 posted on 03/14/2011 10:12:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: ventanax5

I’m sold! Let’s push the button and let God sort’em out.


5 posted on 03/14/2011 10:22:34 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Frantzie; ExTexasRedhead; blackie; LucyT
What is even more incredible is a majority of American Jews still worship him.

Amen about that! WHAT are they thinking? They clearly are groupies to the "rockstar celebrity" they believe him to be. They have NO allegiance to Israel whatsoever, other than cursory. Hollywood moguls and icons are silent and complacent - and they wonder why we no longer respect their "work." Offending Obama's and democrats disrespect toward Israel appears to be beyond their capability.

Three year old stabbed in the heart, baby's that slashed

The initial findings of the investigation into the terrorist massacre in the Israeli town of Itamar in Samaria Friday night show that the Fatah ‘Freedom Fighters’ stabbed the Fogel family's sleeping three year old in the heart and slashed the throat of his three-month-old sister.   

Terrorists assignment: Protect Barack Obama

July 20, 2008 Fatah's declared military wing, have been called upon by the PA to participate in the protection of Obama, particularly in securing the perimeter during a scheduled meeting with PA President Mahmoud Abbas.

6 posted on 03/14/2011 11:41:13 AM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Frantzie; LucyT; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; SoCalPol; Impy; InterceptPoint; rmlew; dennisw; ...
What is even more incredible is a majority of American Jews still worship him.

Voting for a candidate does not not necessarily equate to "worshiping" him. And my intuitive guess at this point is that Obama, if a presidential election were held today, would get only slightly more than 50% of the American Jewish votes. Of course, there's still more than a year and a half to go, so that figure could go either up or down.

Actually, it's a potential loss of political contributions from Jewish 'Rat fatcats that might undermine Obama's reelection chances more.

You have good reason, along with the rest of us, to be teed off at how a Muslim terrorist loving, antisemitic and anti-American individual was somehow elected to the highest office in the land two plus years ago, but the thinking here as that many of those whom you mention as voting for him will not be fooled again.

7 posted on 03/14/2011 1:36:25 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

My experience with being born to, and raised by Jews is that American Jews are over 90% hard core commies.

High IQ and financial success are, evidently, not sufficient to prevent one from being a de facto commie.


8 posted on 03/14/2011 1:55:12 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru; All
My experience with being born to, and raised by Jews is that American Jews are over 90% hard core commies.

I'd agree that the percentage of hard core commies among American Jews during most of the twentieth century and even today is higher than that in the general population, but puh-leeze, it's still only a small fraction of the Jewish population and 90% is an outrageously high estimate.

9 posted on 03/14/2011 2:35:35 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

10 posted on 03/14/2011 3:39:49 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: ventanax5

Mazen said something conciliatory in English? I must have sneezed and missed it.


11 posted on 03/14/2011 3:54:24 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: GladesGuru

The most predisposed Jews to having intermarried socialist grandchildren formed the bulk of the “Fiddler” immigration wave.
Unfortunately , the best Jews stayed behind. (sorta thereverse of the Spanish Expulsion)


13 posted on 03/14/2011 4:15:26 PM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: justiceseeker93

I think you’re right about ‘if the election were held today’ but if the GOP ends up nominating anyone perceived as an ardent “Christian,” i.e., Sarah Palin, the vote will revert to Obama. Perhaps it’s only anecdotal, but I was rather shocked at how many American Jews who liked and were willing to vote for McCain switched after he chose Palin and it was revealed that she’s a serious (as opposed to nominal) Christian. Look at the success of “The Great Schlep.”

The Fatcats will donate to Obama or any Dem at any time. That’s just who they are and what they do. There’s only really a handful of them, relatively speaking. Even if they were to try to withhold donations, the Machine would put the arm on them.

It’s the vast middle class of Jews/Catholics/Protestants/Buddhists/Muslims/Atheists that the GOP has to try to win.


14 posted on 03/14/2011 4:36:01 PM PDT by EDINVA
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...if the GOP ends up nominating anyone perceived as an ardent "Christian," i.e., Sarah Palin, the vote will revert to Obama...

If Palin is the GOP nominee, the crazy Jewish 'Rats no doubt will try to pin an "antisemitic" label on her, but there is no sane basis for it, of course. If anything, Palin is philosemitic, and they will never find any quote or action from her that I'm aware of that can demonstrate otherwise. If Palin is the nominee, the Jewish Republicans hopefully will be very active within their community in fighting the inevitable smears against her and contrasting her to Obama on the Middle East and domestic economic issues. I'm sure that in a Palin vs. Obama contest, the Israeli people (and the Israeli government, covertly) will undoubtedly be supporting Palin.

Look at the success of "The Great Schlep."

I seem to recall that while "the Great Schlep" was going on, the number of young Jews participating, trying to twist the arms of their grandparents in Florida, was disappointingly low according to its own organizers. I don't think it played much of a role at all in what the outcome of the election was, even though it was played up well above and beyond its actual impact by the usual suspects in the MSM. The main reason for McCain's drop-off in Jewish support in the final weeks of the campaign - as it was for the electorate as a whole - was not Palin, but rather the weakening economy, which provoked elderly and historically ignorant Jews to grasp for a second coming of Franklin D. Roosevelt - which was the image that the 'Rat Jewish machine politicians were building for Obama. As we could have predicted, Obama's Keynesian ideology was no panacea for the ailing economy, just as Roosevelt's programs weren't effective back in the 1930s. (Yet FDR remains a mythological figure in so many Jewish families, as tales of his alleged "greatness" are passed on down through the generations. This, despite the fact that a reasonable case can be made for the proposition that Roosevelt himself was an antisemite.)

15 posted on 03/14/2011 7:52:43 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: GladesGuru
My experience with being born to, and raised by Jews is that American Jews are over 90% hard core commies

You must not have ever met commies, whether hard- or softcore.

Not that it's important, but you expended so many words on telling us of your background instead of saying "I am Jewish." Does this suggest that you are not, having been "born to, and raised by Jews?"

16 posted on 03/14/2011 8:09:32 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: justiceseeker93

A Liberal is functionally a small ‘c’ commie, hence my statement.

Factor in the number of my co-religionists who either work for government or have government contracts and the conflict of interest is apparent.

One simply can’t support government outside of the strict constitutional bounds and not be dubbed “unconstitutional”; as George Washington said, “The Constitution is sacredly obligatory on all.” One either believes in the individual or in government.

Jews have, arguably, largely decided that government pays best. It does. Ask any union employee, teacher, govt. consultant, contractor, ad nauseam.

Personally, I sometimes wonder what will happen when Americans finally realize how significant a role America’s Jews played in the spread of socialism in America.


17 posted on 03/14/2011 8:11:47 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Yehuda
Coold down, Yehuda; there are worse things in the world... Prey for peace in Jerusalem and the world.

Shalom.

18 posted on 03/14/2011 8:11:52 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Yehuda
Prey => Pray, of course.

Sorry for the typo.

19 posted on 03/14/2011 8:13:21 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

“You must not have ever met commies, whether hard- or softcore.”

I was a member of th Florida Sierra Club’s Florida Executive Committee (FLEXCOM) - it was loaded with the things.

Also, I have all too detailed a familiarity with commies in education. Just take it to the bank, the union IS commie, and so are all too many edu-macators. Worst of all, IMHO, are the Jews in the school system, because they should know better (and they do know what they are doing).

Not that it is important, but I am unconvinced that there even is a God. If so, those allegedly doing his work have much to account for. Their problem, really.

I tend to hold the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights to be more important than Old/New Testaments. In the final analysis, America, though the most religious of Western nations, is wise to keep faith as a private matter where the 800# gorilla of gooberment is strictly forbidden to interfere.

I happen to value the Old testament concept of forgiveness more than the New testament version, and value the uniquely American idea of the sovereign individual more than the Old/New Testament tolerance of tribe and kings.

Since you did ask, I am convinced that the last six of the Ten Commandments are the most concise rules for social behavior ever written. Like the Constitution, those six are obligatory on all citizens of this Republic.

For mere commies/socialists (regardless of their good intentions)to attempt to replace these ideas with Marxist babble is no less treasonous than Islam’s evil/wicked desire to replace America’s founding concepts with Sharia Law.


20 posted on 03/14/2011 8:30:33 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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