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To: Frantzie
From NRO:

Let us be clear. Compared to the real disaster at hand, the hypothetical threat from the nuclear stations is zero. The reactors in question were all shut down four days ago. The control rods have been inserted, and the cores have been salted with boron. It is physically impossible for them to sustain a fission reaction of any kind at this point, let alone cause another Chernobyl. Only the fission-byproduct decay heat remains, and it is fading fast as the short half-life material (which accounts for most of the radioactivity) performs its decay reactions and ceases to exist. At this point, the total heating power in the reactors is only about 0.3 percent of what it was when the reactors were operating. That means that a system previously capable of generating 1,300 megawatts of heat would now yield 4 megawatts thermal — about the same as that emitted by a dozen 100-horsepower automobile engines. The Japanese engineers can certainly deal with that with water cooling. And even if they were to stop, there just isn’t enough heating power in the system anymore to generate a dangerous plume of radioactive materials, which is doubly impossible at this point since all the more active short half-life stuff is already gone.

25 posted on 03/15/2011 3:25:01 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

Fine. I am not a nuclear scientist. But I do know that a lot of the people saying this is not a serious problem will look awfully dumb if they are wrong. I trust they know what they are talking about but if this does become a catastrophe they will have lost a boatload of credibility ... Including many on these threads.


36 posted on 03/15/2011 3:36:14 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Eva

Thank you Eva. I thought all the rods had been inserted immediately after the earthquake occurred. I realize the core still has to be cooled.

Anyone know more about the cores being “salted” with boron?

Is boron in the vessel and it is dropped on the core from the ceiling or is this what Hillary was delivery with the Air Force as she was taking incoming fire while finding the Rose Law Firm billing records in Fort Marcy Park.


37 posted on 03/15/2011 3:37:07 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Eva

Thanks for the excellent report.

Glad to hear that the crisis is over.


72 posted on 03/15/2011 4:11:52 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Eva

Interesting- thanks for mentioning. Wish the MSM would.

Here’s the full Zubrin article:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262210/anti-nuclear-press-puts-japanese-lives-risk-robert-zubrin


79 posted on 03/15/2011 4:21:25 PM PDT by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Eva

There is one and only one way for Hydrogen to be produced in large enough quantities to produce an explosion. Namely, H is produced as a result of a chemical reaction with the zirconium in the Zircaloy cladding of the fuel rods. And this chemical reaction takes place when the fuel rods reach a temperature of 1200 C (2200 F). Hence the presence of H means the rod temp has reached at least 1200 C. For at least the top parts of the fuel rods.

And this means that the water is boiling away (or leaking) faster than it can be replaced. Because no parts of the fuel rods could reach that temperature if they were completely surrounded by water.

The reaction is similar, but not identical, to these from highschool chemistry.

Na (metal) + H2O -—> NaOH + H
Mg (metal) + HCl -—> MgCl + H [leaving out the 2’s]

With zirconium, it is
Zr + H20 -—> ZrO + H [Zr + 2H20 -—> ZrO2 + 2H2]

That is, Zr metal is converted to Zr-oxide, releasing hydrogen in the process. This does not occur at low temperatures. However, once started the reaction is exothermic, that is, it releases heat. Hence, it tends to get hotter, thus boiling away more water, and speeding up the release of more hydrogen. If nothing happens to get things cool, the process feeds on itself in a runaway fashion.

The problem is made worse by what is known as the “two phase problem.” That is, at the surface of the Zircaloy there is a mixture of liquid water, water vapor (steam), and hydrogen gas. The gases carry heat away poorly, and in effect they provide an insulating layer that hinders the liquid from effective cooling. And zirconium oxide is a much poorer conductor of heat than the metal, so the growing amount of ZrO2 further hinders heat transfer from the fuel rods. Hence, as time goes on, things get hotter.

The rods are about 3 meters long (10 ft), and the water bath normally covers them completely. In this loss of cooling scenario, they are not uncovered all at once. The water level slowly drops, exposing the upper parts of the rods, and the above applies basically to the circa 10-cm region around the water level; above is hot, below is cooler. But at this level, all is turbulent. And as the water level drops, this region keeps revealing new sections of the rods to the H-producing reaction. (The region above the turbulent interface is filled with very hot steam and previously released hydrogen, keeping the ZrO reaction going.)

Worser problems: The Zircaloy tubes (filled with uranium oxide pellets or some mix with plutonium) do not like this situation at all. They are much hotter than they can stand, they experience huge localized hot spots, a thermal gradient, the Zircaloy becomes soft, and the cladding is rapidly being converted to zirconium oxide (there are some other chemical reactions, too). The fuel rods then begin to swell, bend, balloon, buckle, get wart-like bubbles, and eventually develop holes. (The rods always have a fairly high internal pressure owing to the Xenon generated by the radioactive decay). The swelling and buckling may reduce the space between the rods, which then impairs the water circulation, leading to more super-hot spots. At an advanced stage, this becomes a runaway process with a total meltdown unstoppable and inevitable. The whole Pacific Ocean could not stop it.

The holes are what cause isotopes of cesium, xenon, iodine and other unsavory nucleotides to get released.

So far, it seems that only a few upper centimeters of the fuel rods have undergone this process, and only maybe two or three rods have developed holes (out of perhaps 50 rods—not sure of the total number). The concern is, if they have not been able to pump enough water in to prevent this level of Zr-hydrogen reaction, why won’t it get worse? The plant operators know everything—and more—than I have described, but they have not been able to get enough water into the reactor vessels.

The hydrogen problem, again, is that the water level is falling faster than they can pump it in (pump out hot water, replace with cool water). Water, water everywhere but not enough to cool.


130 posted on 03/15/2011 9:18:12 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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