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The Pro-Diabetes Board Washington state targets modern medicine.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, March 18, 2011 | WSJ editorial board

Posted on 03/17/2011 7:49:24 PM PDT by Eva

The future tragedies of government health care will include today's many warnings about how it operates in practice. The subsidize-mandate-over regulate insurance model is imploding in Massachusetts. Then there's Washington state, where a government board may decide that modern medicine is too expensive for kids with diabetes.

Seriously. In 2006, Washington created a board to scrutinize the cost-effectiveness of various surgeries and treatments, known as the Health Technology Assessment program. At a hearing today, the panel will debate glucose monitoring for diabetic children under 18. In other words, the board is targeting the fundamental standard of diabetes care that has been the established medical consensus for at least three decades.

This state issue deserves far more scrutiny, if only because ObamaCare and the stimulus devoted billions of dollars to comparative effectiveness research. As President Obama has so often put it, the idea is to pit Treatment X against Treatment Y and find out "what works and what doesn't." In theory, it sounds great. But the Health Technology Assessment is an example of how comparative effectiveness will work in the real world, as the political system tries to find ways to restrict or limit treatment to control entitlement spending.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diabetes; moralabsolutes; obamacare; wastate; witchcraft
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To: Eva
r9 is upset because his first link that summarized the findings of the WA state death panel

Give me the quote, Eva. Or are you just too lazy.

21 posted on 03/17/2011 8:55:28 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Eva

I guess, but blasting people about a 152 page link is just not what Free Republic is about.

I am getting sick of the self appointed high and mighty’s around here.

But, thanks, I appreciate the clarification.


22 posted on 03/17/2011 8:56:06 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Eva
I don’t respond to ad hominem attacks.

Give me the quote to support your charge, Eva. Your ad hominem charge, you hypocrite.

23 posted on 03/17/2011 8:56:45 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

She told you she won’t respond.

Are you deaf? Or is it blind?


24 posted on 03/17/2011 8:57:13 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: WHBates
Hummm, I guess you could call it a............Oh yea, a death panel.

Bump!

25 posted on 03/17/2011 9:01:15 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

“Modern Medicine” is feckless against all degenerative disease.

The side effects of the drugs that are prescribed are far worse than the disease that is supposedly being treated. Avandia for example is just about a guaranteed heart attack if you take it long enough.


26 posted on 03/17/2011 9:01:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Is avandia a diabetes drug?

What is being denied to the adolescent diabetic patients is a home monitoring device that measures the glucose levels of the kids at various times during the day, preventing attacks. Remember, these are kids we are talking about.


27 posted on 03/17/2011 9:05:24 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

“...the panel will debate glucose monitoring for diabetic children under 18.”

This is truly tragic. These kids will need to monitor their levels closely being types one usually, to have a chance at all.

This is a death sentence for the children who are so unlucky to get this disease.

DeathCare has nothing to do with health. It is about murdering MORE children!


28 posted on 03/17/2011 9:09:21 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers; Eva; r9etb

>> “I appreciate the clarification.” <<

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It wasn’t a ‘clarification,’ it was a deliberate falsehood.


29 posted on 03/17/2011 9:14:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: TruthConquers

It’s about murdering children who are on medicaid or are the children of government workers (probably the SEIU contract workers, not regular government workers).

It reminds me of Margaret Sanger’s original intent for abortion, limiting the number of Black children born into poverty.

I have to wonder how many of the medicaid children with diabetes are members of one minority or another, or are children of SEIU day care workers or home care givers.


30 posted on 03/17/2011 9:15:31 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

Type 1 diabetes can be moderated substantially by a more proper diet that eliminates carbohydrates, and boosts animal fats, making the insulin more effective, and response more predictable, allowing monitoring to be reduced.

Monitoring is mostly a huge cash cow for manufacturers, with little benefit to the patient that is on a proper diet.


31 posted on 03/17/2011 9:19:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Avandia is an oral glucose control agent for type II diabetes.

I don’t think you really think that the side effects of insulin are worse than type I diabetes.


32 posted on 03/17/2011 9:22:37 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: editor-surveyor

Can you read? Do you know English?

What part of BUZZ OFF, wasn’t communicated?

She made herself quite plain.


33 posted on 03/17/2011 9:28:26 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: editor-surveyor

Perhaps you are confusing Type I with Type II.


34 posted on 03/17/2011 9:28:35 PM PDT by Balata (What part of 'WE THE PEOPLE' don't you understand Obama?)
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To: editor-surveyor

That might be true with adults, but the diet of children is more difficult to control. I am well aware of the benefits of low carb diets, but keeping children on a strict diet is often difficult at best.

Diabetes runs in my husband’s family and none of them were over weight, all naturally thin and weight conscious.


35 posted on 03/17/2011 9:28:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

It is a deliberate attempt to kill off the less fortunate, and thin out the poor and less able.

Murder by Government, by decree by Pelosi and Ozombie..

Disgusting.


36 posted on 03/17/2011 9:31:35 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: heartwood

The side effects of excessive insulin are blindness, neuropathy, deafness, and loss of general mobility.

proper diet cuts the need for insulin to about 1/4 of what is normally used by those on the suicide diet that the medical establishment pushes.


37 posted on 03/17/2011 9:32:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Eva

Monitoring has always been essential, in fact the evidence in the past ten years or more was to increase monitoring.

I was type II when I was pregnant. I did well, but I also monitored. To deny monitoring to children is conscionable.


38 posted on 03/17/2011 9:36:20 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: editor-surveyor; Balata

Type I diabetes is where the patient is UNABLE to make ANY insulin.

You are discussing type II, where diet does help.


39 posted on 03/17/2011 9:39:38 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: editor-surveyor

When my husband follows a low carb/no carb diet he wastes away, losing so much weight that people think he has cancer.


40 posted on 03/17/2011 9:44:39 PM PDT by Eva
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