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Gov. Cuomo’s All-Cuts Budget
NY Times ^ | Editorial Board

Posted on 03/20/2011 3:49:23 AM PDT by jimbo123

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To: Venturer

The other day we got a letter from the teacher’s union instructing us to sign a form letter of complaint to out state officials. The claim was that Cuomo was lying and that the children would be harmed. I mailed the instruction letter to a local radio station, which was read on the air. I also mailed it to the targets of the letter and the mayor. I wanted them to know what they were up against and to prepare for the pile of faked outrage.

The school required the letters be signed and returned, not stuffed in envelopes. They allowed hand written notes but they had to be anti-cut. I am assuming someone would read all the letters before sending them to the targets. There was an implied benefit to returning the letters. Those that returned the letters would watch a movie. Those that didn’t got class room work.

NY is a sinking boat. The unions seem to feel that their half of the boat isn’t sinking. It infuriates me beyond expression.


21 posted on 03/20/2011 6:09:48 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Ouderkirk

There is no way that NY could recover. Just like California. The unions bled the state to death. The only solution is to absolve themselves of all financial liability to the pension fund.


22 posted on 03/20/2011 6:14:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: jimbo123
If these cuts prevent the state from going bankrupt and stop even more businesses from leaving the state then they ARE in the best interests of the "children" and the "poor".

WE need to call the libs out on these tired cliched arguements. Bankruptcy and a shrinking economy help no one, most especially the "vulnerable".

23 posted on 03/20/2011 6:22:39 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pietro
However, the bankruptcy, coming soon, of the NYT would be a boon to humanity.

Afterall, they are already morally and intellectually bankrupt.

24 posted on 03/20/2011 6:25:31 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Mr. K

Make NO MISTAKE, Andrew Cuomo is as liberal as they come, and a “highly disagreeable” man, but he is dead on right fiscally. I am pleased that he is grounded in reality and support his efforts to bring reality to Albany.


25 posted on 03/20/2011 6:39:43 AM PDT by Shady (Our quest is to rebuild the United States of America as it was founded by the Founders!)
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To: mewzilla
Then that's on Cuomo.

Hey, no one's calling Cuomo a conservative -- but this is the best effort at containing state costs since 1994 before Pataki changed parties. I mean, c'mon, give the Devil his due.

26 posted on 03/20/2011 6:41:42 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: I_Like_Spam
The union leadership is primarily interested in keeping the flow of dues money coming in- the interest in the welfare of the members they profess isn’t nearly as strong as their interest in their own well-being.

Not primarily, ONLY. The union leadership cares not a whit about members well being, only in members paying dues.While the members get $50K, the leaders get 10 times that amount and more and they want to keep the gravy train rolling.

27 posted on 03/20/2011 7:10:26 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: BfloGuy
but this is the best effort at containing state costs since 1994 before Pataki changed parties. I mean, c'mon, give the Devil his due.

Well, feel free :)

But, to my mind, results are what count. Not good intentions. And Cuomo's so-called cuts'll still leave NYS flat busted.

28 posted on 03/20/2011 7:13:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Were members of both political parties in on the Lockerbie bomber deal?)
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To: Raycpa

Your last paragraph is almost perfect! It puts into words what many people feel................many liberal & former liberal people too! It’s one thing to offer compassion & help to people who have a work ethic and are down on their luck; it is quite another to keep propping up generations of families who leech on the gov’t at EVERY turn. I see this daily at the school where I teach. There are social programs on top of social programs. It’s like the Russian stacking dolls.............endless...............

My brother & I are no longer on the liberal party train anymore. He sees so much abuse in his job ( he does collections & cutoffs for a satellite company)............he has been shot at by rubber bullets , seen two people openly having sex as he was dismantaling a box, tons of people just hanging out , getting high, not working, & having Schwann’s food delivered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All in housing projects!

We are over it and wonder why we stayed clueless for so long. And we watch our 75 year old mother go to work to help support these leeches!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The state I live in has the highest teen pregnancy rate & yet the gravy train keeps coming for all the single moms. What the h*ll kind of incentive is that to stop having children who are a burden to the system in every way possible???????????? (DON’T even get me started on the mother who came to see about her violent, messed up 2nd grade son and came w/ her two teenage thug sons; they had all just come from youthcourt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And more daughters & a baby at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Like my brother says, “You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried!”


29 posted on 03/20/2011 8:18:31 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jimbo123
That means that New York’s most vulnerable citizens — schoolchildren, the elderly, the poor, the sick — will feel a disproportionate amount of the pain.

Let's make the following correction:

That means that New York’s most vulnerable citizens — the schoolteachers union, the elderly, the poor, the sick — will feel a disproportionate amount of the pain.

30 posted on 03/20/2011 8:20:19 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: Raycpa

I can not disagree with a word you say.


31 posted on 03/20/2011 1:33:33 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy, the man is too small.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Since I still live in Western NY, I would like to think that there are always possibilities. But, they are getting fewer and fewer and there may not be much left.

Buffalo’s Gold Coast is empty of those businesses which brought jobs (Bethlehem, Republic, Hanna, and Donner Hanna Coke), Rochester is headed the same general direction as Kodak is a shell, Xerox is a shell, GM’s Rochester Fuel Systems is a shell.

Syracuse is all but gone as GE has left. Rockwell, Allied Signal, Crouse Hinds, Carrier, Chrysler, GM Fisher have left.

The government unions must be broken. When I started working, I could have gone into government, but chose the private sector instead because it paid better. That has changed and the now the government peon makes what I make as a physicist/Licensed Professional Engineer. With better benefits and pension.


32 posted on 03/20/2011 2:34:30 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks jimbo123.
The hard truth is that it is impossible to cut spending deeply without cutting the state's huge outlays for education and health care. That means that New York's most vulnerable citizens -- schoolchildren, the elderly, the poor, the sick -- will feel a disproportionate amount of the pain.
Nope -- the Demwits will feel the disproportionate amount of the pain. Nice spin by the author of the article though.


33 posted on 03/20/2011 5:21:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: mewzilla
absolutely....I'll believe this "budget" when it actually happens...being a rat, Cuomo will not get publically thrashed and he'll get a big pass ...

"don't mistake activity for achievement".....

34 posted on 04/07/2011 11:58:45 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Raycpa

Our current systems remove these incentives and tells them the lie that they cannot do for themselves.

Our current systems, or more specifically, our demagogue politicians, convince others with emphasis about who their enemies are. It’s also them who buy into the votes as well. I mean, I can never get a clear definition as to who the enemies of a given special interest group are, I lost track and gave up on trying to figure out some time ago, and just behave as politely as possible.


35 posted on 05/27/2011 6:18:01 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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