Posted on 03/21/2011 11:06:32 AM PDT by Moseley
All of the news clips dishonestly edits this Bill Maher program from October 29, 1999, to misrepresent what Christine O’Donnell actually said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZlbZl7vbLE&feature=player_embedded
Christine O’Donnell was simultaneously:
o REJECTING influences like witchcraft and Satanic influences in Halloween but
o Reponding to criticisms that she was speaking from a lack of knowledge, criticism that she was exaggerating.
Christine mentioned the dabbling issue to argue that she had KNOWLEDGE that withcraft and satanic influences are bad, and should not be celebrated.
She was explaining that it was *BAD* — and that she knew it was bad from personal experience.
When challenged on whether she knew what she was talking about, she then responded that she had made the mistake of dabbling in witchcraft in high school, and now knew that it was a bad thing. She later became a Christian and for the last 19 years has been an outspoken and passionate advocate for Jesus Christ.
I still think she’s a cute lady bug.
I’m kinda over the witchcraft thing but will always come for Christine pics ;-)
Correct me if I’m wrong but it is my contention that any “religion” that worships the devil(One of which would be witchcraft)is indeed bad.
“I am Not a Witch, but I play one on Bill Maher’s Program”
Seriously, didn’t her campaign prove that nobody benefits when her witchcract is brought up, no matter how much people think it is helping?
The whistle cannot be unblown.
The whole thing is hilarious, because atheists and leftists don’t grasp the Evangelical paradigm at all.
One of Evangelicals biggest beliefs is that those who have sinned can be born again into their faith. But the atheists and leftists assume that Christians will scorn her forever because she admitted to once making a mistake, and so harp on that.
And atheists and leftists are perplexed because Christians appreciate her even more for having come around. It’s the whole “forgiveness” thing. It makes no sense to them.
Atheists and leftists are known for not being forgiving, especially if one of their number strays from doctrine. They will curse at them forever, or at best ignore them. People like David Horowitz they hate beyond hate, and they will do everything in their power to destroy him.
And they assume that Evangelical Christians are the same.
I think I have to correct you, but I don’t know what you said.
19 years ago, Christine O’Donnell found Jesus Christ and became a Christian.
BEFORE THAT she was searching and tried different religions.
She then REJECTED the previous religions she had tried and has been a passionate and committed Christian for the last 19 years.
Does that clear that up, Calex? I don’t understand what your point was.
I agree with you completely. Christians immediately understand the “BEFORE” and “AFTER” paradigm of our lives — how I once was lost, but now am found.
And the Left keeps trying to sow division among Christians and can’t understand why their efforts never work.
Isn’t it a little too late to be debating and discussing her comments on a stupid TV show? The election was over 5 months ago and she lost. Does it matter now?
This has nothing to do with Jesus Christ or "trying out different religions". The problem is not that she tried out Catholicism, Unitarianism, Judaism and the Mormons before becoming a Southern Baptist or a Lutheran.
The problem is that the vast majority of voters do not consider witchcraft to be in the same ballpark as a legitimate "religion".
The problem is that the vast majority of voters believe that anybody that even goes there, for whatever reason, for however short a period of time has a major screw loose.
Well, actually, yes, it does matter.
In the military, such discussions are called "After Action Reviews". In medicine, they are called "Morbidity and Mortality Conferences".
The purpose of such discussions is to determine, "For the future, this works well, this was unfortunate and that was just plain stupid."
In Christine O’Donnell's case: "For the future, being taken seriously works well, having a tape admitting youthful idiocy was unfortunate and keeping the issue alive by putting it into your own paid commercial was just plain stupid."
Another lesson is that appearing on "stupid TV shows" will not serve you well if you expect voters to take you seriously in the future.
Still pushing that old "Reality Show Ruined Palin" meme, eh Polybius? Or should I say, PDSbius?
I don't see how this relates to the military at all.
I thought it was self explanatory but let me rephrase it.
In the military and in medicine (you know, where people actually care about learning from their past mistakes), they don't just say, "That happened 5 months ago and we had a bad outcome. Let's just ignore what happened and not talk about it."
They study past mistakes in order to learn from them and not repeat that type of mistake in the future.
... that's not going to change the fact that she lost. It's old news. She's ancient history. That's what I'm saying.
Ancient history can be very informative. As my namesake wrote at the beginning of his Universal History:
"I have recorded these events in the hope that the reader may profit from them, for there are two ways by which all men may reform themselves, either by learning from their own errors or from those of others; the former makes a more striking demonstration, the latter a less painful one." ...... Polybius (200-118 B.C.), Universal History, Book I, Chapter 35
As I pointed out, even after the 2008 Christine O’Donnell disaster, Sarah Palin has not yet learned the lesson about how "stupid TV shows" and "being taken seriously" are not a compatible mix.
Another lesson is that appearing on "stupid TV shows" will not serve you well if you expect voters to take you seriously in the future.Gee, I'll bet you just about wet yourself when you found this perfect opportunity to post that non-sense.Sarah Palin And Kate Gosselin Join Forces In Alaska In What Might Be The Strangest Episode Of Reality TV Ever
The Ad Hominem Fallacy: "A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such red herrings may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the topic of the debate."
Just call the other guy a "Fascist" (if you are a liberal who does not have a compelling argument to make) or accuse the other guy of having "P.S.D." (if you are a supporter of a candidate whose name starts with the letter P who does not have a compelling argument to make).
I guess I could also wallow in the Ad Hominem Fallacy and simply post things like, "Oh, yeah! Well, you are a P.O.W. (Palin Obsessive Worshipper)."
But, such a mindless interchange does not really help much in preparing for the Real World of general elections, does it?
The reasons that 72% of ALL voters believe that Sarah Palin would not be a good President are multi-factorial and not being seen as somebody that can be taken seriously is one of those factors.
If you think that appearing in reality TV show stunts with tabloid queen Kate Gosslin helps or hurts or makes no difference, then explain your reasoning. "You have P.S.D." and "You are are Fascist" is nothing but mindless dribble.
Here is the February Fox News Poll. Explain it any way you please.
FOX News Poll (February 7-9, 2011)
Question 3: I am going to read you a list of names. Tell me if you think that person would make a good President or not.
Sarah Palin:
.................YES.........NO.......DK.....Never heard of
ALL...........23%.......72%.........4%.......1%
Dem ...........7%........87%........5%.......1%
Rep ...........40%.......56%.......3%.......1%
Ind ...........25%........69%.......3%.......1%
The point was, clueless, that the article was saying Christine was being bad mouthed for calling Witchcraft, among other things, bad and I agreed with her. Next time read the article and try to comprehend the comments others make. You might save yourself embarrassment by NOT making snide and stupid comments to other FReepers.
No, I am sorry, but you are confused. The vast majority of voters have been exposed to Christianity, in which the very core of it is that people turn away from their sins.
Christians, including Christian leaders, are former drug addicts, drug dealers, booze hounds, you name it.
The problem is that you are ignorant. The core of Christianity is that
1 Timothy 1:15
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.
Most voters are not as ignorant as you are.
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