The U.S. Conference Of Catholic Bishops' Dereliction Of Duty On Pro Life Matters

PipeLineNews.org LLC ^ | March 21, 2011 | William Mayer

[johnqueuepublic]

Uhhh you really need to read the piece, that is clearly noted. You obviously haven’t.

There is nothing worse than someone reviewing a book, or movie or other form of media having never read it.

That is intentional ignorance and it’s YOU sir who are part of the problem.

Quote to me any part of this study that is incorrect, prove me wrong.

[count-your-change]

Having read the piece in its entirety I think it might be reduced to a few points:
The American Catholic Bishops were willing to fund and get in bed with any group that they thought would further their agenda broadly described as “social justice”.

And guess who is going to decide what parts of society will receive this “justice”.

[GatorGirl]

But the problem is, Salvation, they funded it before they dropped the funding.

What other leftist causes do they support?

There is a problem with leftism/Marxism in the Catholic Church.

I say this as a practicing Catholic struggling with whether to give to the APA this year after the lovely pro-amnesty letter from all the Florida Bishops in our bulletin some weeks back.

[johnqueuepublic]

I believe that is a reasonable characterization, thanks count.

[AKA Elena]

I believe, very strongly, that we, the laity, need to be led to the truths of "what is wrong" with our leaders (USCCB) AND BECOME FOLLOWERS, OR LISTENERS, AT LEAST, TO THE YOU TUBE talks that are given by MICHAEL VOORHEES (sp?) when he uses RealCatholicTV and speaks through "The Vortex".

Some of it is very strong in objections or points that Michael makes, but most often I can see one of these -- and clearly and form my own thought and decide that what I think has been a mistake by one, or other, or all of the USCCB, through Michael's Vortex -- and his inevitably correct Catholic thinking.

Unfortunately, our realization of "something wrong" makes us part of what is called The Church Militant, as if we are speaking out just to cause unnecessary conflict.

So much of "Catholic Thought" is faulty in its line of reason --- and fortunately, can be justifiably ignored or pointed out, as wrong by individual Catholics with no attached sin or error. The Absolutes" are inconvenient for the USCCB to put on the top of their agendas. This boggles my mind!

[johnqueuepublic]

Not only did they fund ACORN, which was created by a Marxist revolutionary, Wade Rathke who belonged to the SDS, they funded ACORN to the tune of at least 7.5 million dollars.

The USCCB/CCHD monolith only dropped the funding when it became clear, even to the MSM that ACORN was hopelessly corrup.

The problem in NOT Catholicism as a theology, the problem is how that theology has been systematically twisted over the last 100 years so that it could be used to provide faux religious support for the Progressive/socialist/neo-Marxist agenda.

Salvation, I believe you have a good heart and truly think this is slandering the teachings of Christ. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Under the theologoy operative in an around this USCCB, Jesus was a socialist revoltionary, whose goal was to reorder the physical assets of this world.

If you have a shred of understanding regarding the basis of Christianity, you will immediately realize that position is completely at odds with Christ’s message, which was spiritual and not of this world.

For all intents and purposes under the current leadership, the American Catholic Church has become just another utopian pressure group, and we have seen over the ages how utopian schemes generally end.

[DBeers]

I would suggest it should be self evident that the central planning USCCB was infiltrated by socialist marxists much like our government has been and for that matter many organizations and institutions have been.

As a Catholic myself, it is evident to me what has happened. It is also evident to me that things are slowly but surely being corrected.

Just as Americans seek to take back our country -we Catholics seek to take back the organizations that have been co-opted and went astray...

The mainly well intended people that have led and attempt to lead Catholics astray are one and the same that have led the US astray...

Believe me, Catholics know far better and all too well just where the errors are. Outside armchair critics bring nothing new to the discussion especially if they paint with a broad brush all Catholics as complicit.

I am the American Catholic Church too.

[count-your-change]

The thanks should go to you for bringing this to everyones attention. Mayer has done a masterful job.

[SumProVita]

“I suggest you read the entire study...”

I am very aware what is taking place among those who call themselves CATHOLIC.

Perhaps you do not understand what is meant by the term, CHURCH?

Again, I agree that there is a problem....it is with certain people. Those who follow Christ in the Church will be more and more attacked (and/or ignored) by those who don’t.....but the legitimate Church will remain.

Prayer is powerful. We need to make use of it at a much deeper level....because things are going to get FAR more difficult and FAR more corrupted and sinful.

I honestly believe that God’s protections are slowly and consistently being removed as His merciful way of waking us up.

[SumProVita]

One more thing johnQ....

You need to ask God to give you the grace to see the GOOD clergy and learn about what they are doing. LOTS of bishops are getting ready for the New Evangelization called for by the Pope. Get involved with it....make a difference! ;-))

[schmootman]

The American bishops are in de facto schism. 95% continue to support CCHD despite the overwhelming evidence of its corruption. 95% refuse to enforce Canon 915. One/half to two/thirds enabled priestly sex abuse.

[schmootman]

The American bishops are in de facto schism. 95% continue to support CCHD despite the overwhelming evidence of its corruption. 95% refuse to enforce Canon 915. One/half to two/thirds enabled priestly sex abuse.

[Salvation]

**One more thing johnQ....

You need to ask God to give you the grace to see the GOOD clergy and learn about what they are doing. LOTS of bishops are getting ready for the New Evangelization called for by the Pope. Get involved with it....make a difference! ;-))**

Ditto.

Also we all need to look at all these Bernadin Boys (bishops) who are leaving and being replaced by Pope Benedict with wonderfully loyal abd REALLY Catholic bishops. The pendulum is swinging back to the right, although the author and poster seem not to want to admit it.

[SumProVita]

Here are a few more things to read, johnQ:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2693272/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2693287/posts

;-))))))