Posted on 03/23/2011 12:13:31 PM PDT by Nachum
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP/WBTV) - North Carolina transportation officials say they've reached an agreement that will allow them to obtain $461 million in federal grants to improve train service.
The agreement will allow faster and more frequent passenger service between Charlotte and Raleigh. State transportation secretary Gene Conti says the agency will seek bids for contracts for tracks, bridges and trains.
Officials say the new service would cut travel time from Charlotte to Raleigh to less than three hours, even with seven stops along the way. However, the ride will only be 13 minutes faster.
The project is expected to create nearly 5,000 jobs.
With the millions, the state will be taking out a zig-zag Norfolk-Southern and CSX trains have to maneuver through in Charlotte's Fourth Ward area.
The project will also add miles of double track and miles of passing track so trains can pass each other.
The work will also straighten out some of the lines and build bridges where the trains intersect with roadways.
Money will also go to begin developing a huge train station in Fourth Ward north of the Panthers stadium. That will be called the Charlotte Gateway Station, which will bring together Amtrak, a future commuter rail to north Mecklenburg and a streetcar through Charlotte.
North Carolina had to obtain an agreement with Norfolk Southern Railway to qualify for the grants. The Federal Railroad Administration had been concerned that slower freight trains might hamper the new service.
Copyright 2011 WBTV. All rights reserved. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Some facts:
- Only two rail systems in the world at least make money: between Tokyo and Osaka, Japan, and and between Paris and Lyon, France.
- Therefore, all but these two rail systems require subsidies (read tax money, which could cost jobs) to remain in operation - that cost is never calculated as part of the equation.
- Since Japan introduced high-speed bullet trains, passenger rail has lost more than half its market share to the automobile. Since Italy, France, and other European countries opened their high-speed rail lines, rail's market share in Europe has dwindled from 8.2 to 5.8 percent of travel.
- Capital costs of recent rail projects in Denver and Seattle are running 60 to 100 percent above projections. Once construction begins, politicians will feel obligated to throw good taxpayers' money after bad.
- Part of the justification for high-speed rail is that they will take cars off the road. If that is the case, then you have to include the number of associated jobs that would be lost, as well as the increased emissions associated with rail compared to the reduction in cars, neither of which is done.
- More likely, high-speed rail would displace some amount of commuter air travel, in which case you also have to include the number of associated jobs that would be lost, which is not done.
Bottom line: If high-speed rail doesn't work in Japan and Europe, how can it work in the United States?
I can do Charlotte to Raliegh by car in less than 2.5 hours. See, I just saved 30 minutes and it didn’t cost $500 million. ‘High-speed’ my beeehind.
I see the train come through Cary (just W. of Raleigh) about 3 days a week.
I can see through the windows and count the passengers. Usually no more than 6-10 folks in the 4 cars.
High speed rail would be a total waste of money.
Therein lies the reason that all rail comparisons between the US and Europe ultimately fail. No one is ever going to take the train between Charlotte in Raleigh or Atlanta or anywhere else in the Southern US precisely because of your point - there are no "walkable cities" in the South - hell, outside of New York and Chicago and perhaps Boston, there really aren't any walkable cities in the US, at all. People can drive to those destinations (across the South) in very reasonable amounts of time (even compared to high-speed rail) and then not be burdened with renting a car upon arrival.
You can see a lot of Europe without ever renting a car, but American cities - primarily because American cities are literally hundreds (and hundreds) of years younger than their European counterparts, just weren't designed similarly. Land is a problem for them, it's still not a problem for us.
You can not run it on current lines for both scheduling and practical purposes.
Every stop along the way adds to the your trip times. Yet, you must add stops to obtain the revenue necessary to support operations.
So, let's see what our tax dollars bought for $ 461 million dollars other than rebuilding a rail line. It saves 13 minutes or 780 seconds. That's slight more than $ 500,000 a second.
Hmmm. Looks just like the jobs “saved or created” by other stimulus packages - $ 250,000 per job.
Any questions why we are broke?
...fruit of the magical Willie Green tree.
Trust me, they're working on it....
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