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Cleveland Browns fan sues over NFL lockout
Yahoo ^ | 3/25/11 | THOMAS J. SHEERAN

Posted on 03/25/2011 2:41:23 PM PDT by Libloather

Cleveland Browns fan sues over NFL lockout
By THOMAS J. SHEERAN, Associated Press
6 hours, 29 minutes ago

CLEVELAND (AP)—A Cleveland Browns fan sued the National Football league and its teams over the player lockout, claiming it violated his contract to buy tickets through his personal seat license.

Ken Lanci, a self-made millionaire who ran unsuccessfully last year for the top county government job in Cleveland, filed the lawsuit Thursday in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.

“It’s a fight between billionaires and millionaires,” Lanci said Friday in a phone interview. “There isn’t any sympathy for multi-millionaires. It’s just not going to happen. And somebody has to stand up and say, ‘Enough’s enough.’”

The lawsuit asked for damages of more than $25,000 from the Browns on both breach of contract and bad faith counts and more than $25,000 from the league and its teams for alleged contract interference.

**SNIP**

The lawsuit also asked for any additional unspecified damages that the court considers fair.

The case was assigned to Judge John P. O’Donnell. The league and teams have four weeks to respond in court.

Lanci claimed that the lockout denies him the right under the personal seat licenses to go to Browns games and has destroyed the value of the seat-license agreement.

The lawsuit claims the NFL and its teams have “conspired with the Browns and one another to lock out the players, without justification, resulting in the Browns’ breach of the PSL agreement.”

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: browns; cleveland; lockout; nfl
Well, a contract is a contract. 10,409 comments @ the link.
1 posted on 03/25/2011 2:41:30 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Well, at least his name will stay in the news, which should help in his next political race....


2 posted on 03/25/2011 2:44:19 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Libloather

The rich get richer.

Welcome to Obamaland. :)


3 posted on 03/25/2011 2:46:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Libloather

This idiot should be happy if there is a lockout and the NFL saves his the money and grief of seeing the Browns get their butts kicked in eight games).

I live in the Detroit area and a lockout wouldn’t bother me. No Lions - yeah!


4 posted on 03/25/2011 2:46:16 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Libloather

He should probably wait until September to see if they actually miss a game.


5 posted on 03/25/2011 2:46:42 PM PDT by discostu (this is definitely not my confused face)
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To: Libloather

The fan has a point. The PSL (and these things are worse than a Bernie Madoff scheme to begin with) has an intrinsic value that is damaged if there’s no professional football. Therefore, it isn’t just for emotional distress, etc. The NFL is intentionally killing the value of the man’s PSL by denying him the value to sell it to other pro football fans.

Instead of arguing, as most fan lawsuits do, that the fan is harmed by some vague value, the PSL has a set monetary value and thus loses value when there is no games to sell.

Motion sustained. Continue.


6 posted on 03/25/2011 3:26:09 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: OrangeHoof
Excellent points, but keep in mind that if the PSL is the only basis of the lawsuit then the maximum damages that a fan could seek would be the value of the PSL -- probably $5,000 to $15,000 for most fans. That's hardly worth the time, effort and expense of a lawsuit.

To be really effective, this kind of legal action needs to be elevated to a class action suit in which the team(s) and/or the NFL are exposed to $5,000-$15,000 in damages per litigant.

7 posted on 03/25/2011 3:41:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
To be really effective, this kind of legal action needs to be elevated to a class action suit in which the team(s) and/or the NFL are exposed to $5,000-$15,000 in damages per litigant.

Since we're talking about some big money here, how about companies who paid for advertising during NFL games? How about the Networks who paid for rights to telecast the games? How about stadium vendors who can't sell $6 beers and $8 hot dogs?

Can the owners legally hire "scabs" (replacement players) to play the games? Fans would scream bloody murder and ticket sales would plummet, but they could argue in court that a game was held and there were no guarantees concerning quality of play...

8 posted on 03/25/2011 4:22:25 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Libloather
Not sure if this means anything , As a season ticket holder I received a letter from my favorite team that if lock out effects any game I would get my money back + interest
9 posted on 03/25/2011 4:36:43 PM PDT by drumr337 (I voted 4 Palin)
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To: Libloather

What is he suing about, there hasn’t been a professional football team in Cleveland for the last ten years.


10 posted on 03/25/2011 4:39:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
And how 'bout them Cowboys?

Sorry, couldn't resist. But you did get a knowing chuckle out of a lifetime Browns fan, and that status comes with an automatic complementary membership in the masochist club of my choice.

11 posted on 03/25/2011 5:11:13 PM PDT by katana
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To: katana

Oh no, it’s even better, I’m a lifelong Lions fan.


12 posted on 03/25/2011 5:13:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PGR88
Lanci is a cool populist guy. A successful businessman, which means lots of the idiot contingent of freepers will try to trash him. He has a point about the PSL's, which secure the right to buy season tickets for 18 games. If they don't play all 18 the season ticketholders are getting screwed even worse than usual.
13 posted on 03/25/2011 5:40:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ZOOKER
Can the owners legally hire "scabs" (replacement players) to play the games?

They did exactly that the last time the players went out on strike.

14 posted on 03/25/2011 5:43:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Alberta's Child
To be really effective, this kind of legal action needs to be elevated to a class action suit in which the team(s) and/or the NFL are exposed to $5,000-$15,000 in damages per litigant.

I certainly agree. Of course, the problem with class action lawsuits is that they are as big a fraud as the PSLs. The only ones who make any money off class action lawsuits are the lawyers. The plaintiffs get whatever change is in the attorney's sock drawer and 99% of the damages go to pay the lawyers. So there should be no shortage of sleazy lawyers lining up to help this plaintiff out in order to make sure that the bar winds up with most of the rewards.

15 posted on 03/25/2011 6:14:50 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: drumr337
Not sure if this means anything , As a season ticket holder I received a letter from my favorite team that if lock out effects any game I would get my money back + interest

The difference is that probably every contract involved with game tickets, game advertising, etc. is that there are contingencies written in if there is no game. I suspect that is not true of PSLs. They weren't around the last time the NFL had a strike/lockout.

16 posted on 03/25/2011 6:23:43 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: ZOOKER

I may be wrong about this, but the NFL television contracts all have some kind of language in them that lays out terms and conditions in the event of a strike or lockout. As for advertisers, I’m sure they don’t have to spend a dime on any ads in the event the games aren’t played.


17 posted on 03/25/2011 7:15:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

ans responsible for NFL 100%, owners 0%.
Fans get 12% of Super Bowl tickets, celebrites get 88%.
Owners plan to start pay-for-view leaving most arm-chair-fans out in the cold.
Owners now show lots of games on the NFL Network which million of viewers don’t have.
Owners are allowed to move teams form town to town without concern for the fans.
Fans pay 1000% above the norm for concessions at arenas.
Let the owners know your concern. Unite now. Join the new, not-for-profit, organization “The NFL Fans Association” Help leave message. ‘nfl-pro-fan.com’


18 posted on 07/04/2011 6:25:57 AM PDT by Jerry4637 (NFL fans have rights too.)
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