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Itís Tracking Your Every Move and You May Not Even Know
New York Times ^ | March 26, 2011 | NOAM COHEN

Posted on 03/26/2011 3:19:40 PM PDT by decimon

A favorite pastime of Internet users is to share their location: services like Google Latitude can inform friends when you are nearby; another, Foursquare, has turned reporting these updates into a game.

But as a German Green party politician, Malte Spitz, recently learned, we are already continually being tracked whether we volunteer to be or not. Cellphone companies do not typically divulge how much information they collect, so Mr. Spitz went to court to find out exactly what his cellphone company, Deutsche Telekom, knew about his whereabouts.

The results were astounding. In a six-month period — from Aug 31, 2009, to Feb. 28, 2010, Deutsche Telekom had recorded and saved his longitude and latitude coordinates more than 35,000 times. It traced him from a train on the way to Erlangen at the start through to that last night, when he was home in Berlin.

Mr. Spitz has provided a rare glimpse — an unprecedented one, privacy experts say — of what is being collected as we walk around with our phones. Unlike many online services and Web sites that must send “cookies” to a user’s computer to try to link its traffic to a specific person, cellphone companies simply have to sit back and hit “record.”

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Tracking a customer’s whereabouts is part and parcel of what phone companies do for a living. Every seven seconds or so, the phone company of someone with a working cellphone is determining the nearest tower, so as to most efficiently route calls. And for billing reasons, they track where the call is coming from and how long it has lasted.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; cellphones; mobile; privacy; surveillance; tracking
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1 posted on 03/26/2011 3:19:42 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Take the battery out.


2 posted on 03/26/2011 3:22:14 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

Haow about a wee Faraday cage?


3 posted on 03/26/2011 3:25:56 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: decimon

Be mindful of this and don’t take your phone with you while you are going to a location that you don’t want someone - anyone to know.


4 posted on 03/26/2011 3:26:14 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Army Air Corps

Haow = How


5 posted on 03/26/2011 3:26:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yup


6 posted on 03/26/2011 3:27:24 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: decimon
That's why I leave my cell phone at home when I go down to the orphanage with my trusty axe.

/johnny

7 posted on 03/26/2011 3:28:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: decimon

1. Slip the battery cover off.
2. Remove battery.
3. Exhale.


8 posted on 03/26/2011 3:28:43 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: decimon
Dain bramage.....:Work

Dain bramage:.....Beer Store

Dainbramage:......Home

Dain bramage:.....Work

Dain bramage:....Beer Store

Dain bramage.....Home

Dain bramage:....Work...............

9 posted on 03/26/2011 3:31:05 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: struggle

Thank you. Seriously. Good to know.


10 posted on 03/26/2011 3:33:00 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: taxcontrol
Be mindful of this and don’t take your phone with you while you are going to a location that you don’t want someone - anyone to know.

What if you frequent legitimate establishments in proximity to illegitimate ones? Might someone draw inference from that?

11 posted on 03/26/2011 3:35:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

This stuff like Google Earth is bizarre; I entered my address in Google something and there were pictures of the front and both sides of my house. Crazy...

They say you’d also be shocked how many times in a given day you’re recorded on security cameras while on the sidewalk/street.


12 posted on 03/26/2011 3:35:58 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: decimon

This is great news for private investigators who will more than likely figure out how to access this information - like what hotel room you are in and if there is another persons cell phone almost on top of your cell phone, etc.

How long before cell companies start selling this data? Stalkers will be thrilled - the possibilities are endless.


13 posted on 03/26/2011 3:40:12 PM PDT by unique
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To: unique
...like what hotel room you are in and if there is another persons cell phone almost on top of your cell phone...

Me top man!


14 posted on 03/26/2011 3:56:26 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Pray for Japan.)
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To: listenhillary

Ping.


15 posted on 03/26/2011 3:57:16 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: decimon

I always send my cellphone in the opposite direction whilst I’m engaging in illicit journeys. It took a while to train it, but was worth the effort.


16 posted on 03/26/2011 3:59:28 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: taxcontrol

“Be mindful of this and don’t take your phone with you while you are going to a location that you don’t want someone - anyone to know.”
_____________________________

Uhhh, don’t have a cell phone with your name attached to it.
Is that not possible in the USSA?


17 posted on 03/26/2011 4:04:04 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: taxcontrol

Exactly.


18 posted on 03/26/2011 4:05:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: FReepaholic

19 posted on 03/26/2011 4:08:37 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: DainBramage

That looks suspiciously like a domestic terrorist travel pattern. Expect DHS to be checking up on you.


20 posted on 03/26/2011 4:10:14 PM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: unique
if there is another persons cell phone almost on top of your cell phone, etc

If they both have cell phone covers, we can be assured there is no hanky panky going on.

21 posted on 03/26/2011 4:12:32 PM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: Army Air Corps

“How about a wee Faraday cage”?

Seriously, could a cellphone case be fitted to block this out? Or even wrap it in a piece of aluminum foil? (I know the tin foil hat comments are going to start now...)


22 posted on 03/26/2011 4:13:12 PM PDT by 18Cfan
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To: AlexW
Uhhh, don’t have a cell phone with your name attached to it. Is that not possible in the USSA?

It may be possible but after the phone spends a few nights reporting your location while at work, drive to and from work and sleep, it could be pretty well assumed who the phone belongs to.

23 posted on 03/26/2011 4:14:23 PM PDT by theymakemesick ( islam - inspired by Satan www.prophetofdoom.net)
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To: taxcontrol

Simpler is to just power down the phone. You might still need it for emergencies.


24 posted on 03/26/2011 4:29:50 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: mylife

I keep mine off in the car, unless I need to make an emergency outgoing call. I turn it on at home to check for missed calls and battery strength.


25 posted on 03/26/2011 4:31:08 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: theymakemesick

“It may be possible but after the phone spends a few nights reporting your location while at work, drive to and from work and sleep, it could be pretty well assumed who the phone belongs to.
___________________________________________________

Well, yes, they can follow a number, but it is far fetched to think they would be tracking EVERY phone to see who it might be associated with.
I can see it only if that number happened to be associated
with a serious crime, such as setting off a bomb.

Paranoia is starting to run deep in US society.


26 posted on 03/26/2011 4:32:53 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: mylife; struggle

“...Take the battery out...”
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No can do w/ iphone...


27 posted on 03/26/2011 4:51:05 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Tagline closed for repairs. Please use the next available tagline. We appreciate your patience.)
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To: decimon
Only if you have phone with a GPS in it.

Tracfones don't. That's another good reason for using them, besides no exorbitant contract.

28 posted on 03/26/2011 4:52:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: decimon

I know of moms of teenagers that go on the computer to the cell carrier site and can see where there teenagers are.
If the phone is OFF it can’t be tracked.


29 posted on 03/26/2011 4:54:26 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: decimon

Oh and there is of course a fee for this tracking.


30 posted on 03/26/2011 4:55:42 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Repeal The 17th

Cage it then.


31 posted on 03/26/2011 4:58:34 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Repeal The 17th

Bummer.

That limits your options.


32 posted on 03/26/2011 4:59:56 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

“Take the battery out.”

Better yet don’t own a phone of any kind. That avoids records about you. Borrow the use of somebody elses cellular or landline phone, when needed.

Or just don’t use phones. It is all voluntary.

Same applies for computers, the interwebs, credit cards, etc.

Just live under a bridge, walk to work, or don’t work.


33 posted on 03/26/2011 5:01:11 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: AlexW

“Paranoia is starting to run deep in US society.”

How many ways are you being monitored?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2694943/posts

If you’re not breaking the law, there is no need to be paranoid I suppose. How many laws do we have again?

Here is my updated list.

1. Plans for black box monitoring of miles driven in our private automobiles to charge us with a mileage tax. They aren’t getting enough gas taxes in some states and would like to tax by the mile. Also insurance companies would like to have rates that reflect our driving habits and miles driven. Insurance companies have started giving discounts to monitor your driving habits and miles driven.

2. Thermostats / water heaters/ electrical usage meters for our houses that are tied in to a central system to monitor our energy use and at times shut off our energy to manage electrical loads.

3. Microphones on your cell phone can be turned on remotely by the phone company to monitor what you are saying even when you think your cell phone is not connected to a live call. They can do this, so watch what you say.

4. Tracking your movements by noting which cell towers are in contact with your cell phone. One person had found that the phone company had stored his GPS location 35,000 times over 6 months. All stored in the telephone company tracking database. The only way to avoid this is to remove the battery from your phone.

5. Monitoring voice traffic on phone calls for sequences of words or specific words.

6.Traffic video cameras that watch as you use the “state’s” roads. Video cameras at gas stations, malls, shopping centers.

7. License plate scanners used by the police can scan hundreds of plates per day. Alerting the police to drivers that might have legal issues, warrants, revoked driving licenses.

8. Satellite photos of your house and land. Google street view looking in your windows or open garage doors.

9. RFID tags embedded in products you buy

10. RFID tags embedded in your passport

11. RFID tags embedded in your credit card

12. RFID tags embedded in your “Easy-pass” toll paying system

13. Talk of a universal medical card that would store your medical history, treatments provided, medications prescribed

14. Every debit card purchase, every credit card purchase, every check written and scanned is stored in an aggregator database that monitors what products are purchased. These lists are purchased by marketing companies to target advertising to you.

15. The internet. Cookies, ad trackers, facebook postings, on line forums.

We’re all aware that some of this monitoring is beneficial. When they have been able to find people by noting the last cell phone tower their phone was in contact with has been a big help in finding people that have been abducted or have been in a accident. It just makes me stop and think when I see it all in one place how little privacy we have left.


34 posted on 03/26/2011 5:01:17 PM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: 18Cfan

It could be easily done, and while I know people think this is crazy talk, You could sell such a security measure to millions for a good profit.


35 posted on 03/26/2011 5:02:07 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Without the GPs they triangulate your location with signal strength.


36 posted on 03/26/2011 5:03:12 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: BerryDingle

Thats basically what I do


37 posted on 03/26/2011 5:05:10 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
Yeah, but they can't record your gps coordinates cause there ain't none.

About all they know is which towers you're bouncing off of.

38 posted on 03/26/2011 5:07:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: truth_seeker

Well, we all have a choice, but the truth is that they entice us into giving up anonymity, and potentially freedom with convenience.

And they get us to pay for it LoL


39 posted on 03/26/2011 5:07:51 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Repeal The 17th

make a sleeve of aluminum foil.


40 posted on 03/26/2011 5:08:35 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: listenhillary

I suspect but cant prove that there are RFID in currency.

You could track money easily.


41 posted on 03/26/2011 5:09:26 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: decimon

Another example of the collusion between big government and big business. Here in the US being able to locate a cell phone beyond just what cell it was in for technical reasons, was justified for our “protection” in case of a 911 call. And to be honest, some kidnapped children have been found thanks to the location information. However, it could have been implemented with a function button on the phone: whenever you wanted to allow your exact location to be known, the button would have to be pushed giving permission. Notice that option was never raised to the level of a public discussion. No, the FCC just imposed a mandate to the cell phone companies to keep track of the location within I think a 200 foot circle. That of course is now supplemented with GPS information when the phone can resolve a GPS coordinate.

I may just opt for a WiFi-enabled Google voice phone, so I control exactly when I reveal my location and when I don’t.


42 posted on 03/26/2011 5:11:42 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

True.


43 posted on 03/26/2011 5:12:38 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: listenhillary

“How many ways are you being monitored?”

Yes, I know the technology is there.
I was in the mobile phone business, before cellular, and later the first BellSouth agent in my county.
Radio technology was my life from childhood.

I have, however, left the once great USA, with no plan to return.
I have no car, and my mobile has no name association.
If I use it at all, it is maybe a short text msg maybe on an average of once per day.

If the US feds want me, they can find me here on Free Republic, or they can stop my social security payments, haha.


44 posted on 03/26/2011 5:14:15 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW
Yes.

It is also possible not to have a phone with a GPS chip in it.

If you are not on a call it does not track.

Of course if you want all the latest gadgets, bells and whistles that mean that you have to be connected at all times, then your privacy is pretty much gone.

45 posted on 03/26/2011 5:16:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: JRandomFreeper; TheOldLady

“Evil Alice” posts on FR!

LOL!


46 posted on 03/26/2011 5:18:16 PM PDT by Salamander (I think I need some rest......but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.)
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To: DainBramage

Dain bramage:....Beer Store

Dain bramage.....Home

Dain bramage:....Work...............

You just gotta be scared of people who needed a multi-trillion dollar network
of satellites and computers to figure out your habitual routine doncha? LOL

47 posted on 03/26/2011 5:26:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: decimon

your position... recorded... every 6 minutes.

of course, that’s assuming the samples were evenly distributed through time.

if i created the system, i would only record a new location, if it had changed since the last reading. otherwise, i would just update a field in the existing record. therefore, each sample would have the gps coordinate, t1 and t2. t1 and t2 being the times through which the gps reading was valid.

this would allow me to essentially ignore all the samples of the phone remaining stationary (ie: nighttime) and get a finer time granularity on the samples.


48 posted on 03/26/2011 5:30:47 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Of course if you want all the latest gadgets, bells and whistles that mean that you have to be connected at all times, then your privacy is pretty much gone.”
_________________________

Yes, I was much into the latest in communications during
my younger years, and if not for the internet, I would not have lived in Europe for some years, and would not be where I am today, but after age 60, you stop to wonder what it is doing for, and to your life.
If anything, it is destroying the society.
The thought of being watched in public by a camera at most any moment is quite creepy.


49 posted on 03/26/2011 5:43:50 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: struggle
1. Slip the battery cover off.
2. Remove battery.
3. Exhale.

You forgot the second battery inside:
4. Wrap in tinfoil.
5. Submerge in salt water (concentrated nitric acid also good)
6. Now exhale.

50 posted on 03/26/2011 6:08:00 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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