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Obama: Measure students with more than tests (Hope, change AND dreams?)
TBO ^ | 3/28/11

Posted on 03/28/2011 10:57:07 PM PDT by Libloather

Obama: Measure students with more than tests
The Associated Press
March 28, 2011 Updated: 11:13 pm

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama said Monday that students should take fewer standardized tests and school performance should be measured in other ways than just exam results. Too much testing makes education boring for children, he said.

**SNIP**

Latino students make up one in five of all students in prekindergarten through high school in the U.S. but lag far behind whites in educational attainment, with less than one in three graduating from high school, according to federal Education Department figures. Obama emphasized to his largely Hispanic audience the importance of staying in school and he noted that more and more jobs will require advanced degrees.

Obama also made a plug Monday for the use of technology in classrooms, revealing that he himself has an iPad.

He turned back a plea from one questioner to grant a special protected status to students who are in the country illegally in order to prevent them from getting deported. Obama said it wouldn't be appropriate because that status has traditionally been reserved for immigrants fleeing persecution or disaster.

The president did pledge to keep working to pass the Dream Act, which would give illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children a chance to gain legal status if they enroll in college or the military. The legislation passed the House but failed in the Senate in December; it now faces even longer odds in Congress with the House controlled by Republicans.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegal; immigrants; mexico; obama; students; tests
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1 posted on 03/28/2011 10:57:11 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Licking the scrotum of change? My apologies......


2 posted on 03/28/2011 11:00:39 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Libloather

Yes, dreams about getting laid, getting high and playing mid-night basket ball that would be holders people.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 11:04:34 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Libloather

“We must take race, gender, LGBTI status, disability, party affiliation, union household status, parent’s firearm ownership, economic & social status and approved religions into account on test scores.”


4 posted on 03/28/2011 11:11:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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WTF!


5 posted on 03/28/2011 11:11:38 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather
President Barack Obama said Monday that students should take fewer standardized tests and school performance should be measured in other ways than just exam results.

Performance *is* already measured in ways other than exam results. These other approaches often introduce enormous potential for bias and capriciousness--unlike properly designed standardized tests.

Which is why libs love the alternatives. PC outcomes can be readily produced.

6 posted on 03/28/2011 11:12:33 PM PDT by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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This sounds like that twaddle that surfaced some years ago about “alternate” methods of testing. It spawned stories of kids building things with Lego instead of taking the SAT or some such. It’s supposed to provide a measure for kids who somehow didn’t get anything out of their schooling, but realistically, as noted upthread, it only allows for unqualified promotion. This will result in a great many kids who have no business going on to higher education being dumped into colleges and universities, where they will have to be socially promoted in order to graduate. The end result will be a greater stratification of the society, as waves of “frauducated” people move into adulthood completely unprepared for the Real World, and have to compete with, frankly, smarter people. They will fail, and become an ever-growing entitled/dependent class, unable to work in complex careers and unwilling to take less-demanding jobs which they will view as “below them”.


7 posted on 03/28/2011 11:21:20 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Libloather

What about vouchers?


8 posted on 03/28/2011 11:24:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Libloather
...school performance should be measured in other ways than just exam results

Hmmm, like party/idealogical loyalty?

9 posted on 03/28/2011 11:25:27 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Libloather

>> revealing that he himself has an iPad.

And two teleprompters.


10 posted on 03/28/2011 11:27:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Libloather

“he himself”


11 posted on 03/28/2011 11:29:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Libloather

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama said Monday that students should take fewer standardized tests and school performance should be measured in other ways than just exam results. Too much testing makes education boring for children, he said.

Obama emphasized to his largely Hispanic audience the importance of staying in school and he noted that more and more jobs will require advanced degrees.


Which makes it asinine to suggest that they reduce testing or exams. He is an absolute IDIOT!


12 posted on 03/28/2011 11:34:03 PM PDT by Netizen
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Yes.


13 posted on 03/28/2011 11:36:00 PM PDT by allmost
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To: freespirited
After reading the article, if I understood correctly, Obama is criticizing the “teaching of the TAKS”. I may have read his intent incorrectly, but I happen to agree.

What would be wrong with the “old fashioned” way of testing a student's knowledge of a subject at given intervals during the school year? Yes, it may have created a little stress, but passing a history, math, etc test was a great motivation to learn. So I sure don't agree with his “test every couple of years” methodology.

His equating his ownership of an Ipad with technology is junk.

The rest of the article dealing with illegal immigration...well it's to late for me to get out my soapbox. It was just his lame attempt to pander anyway.

14 posted on 03/28/2011 11:39:05 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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Want kids to stay in school? Take them on a quick trip through the hood. Then take them on a field trip to the nearest prison? Take them on a tour of some of the grungy factories. Ask them if they want do that type of work for 40 years?


15 posted on 03/28/2011 11:41:07 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: berdie

Thank you for your non-input.:)


16 posted on 03/28/2011 11:42:53 PM PDT by allmost
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To: freespirited
After reading the article, if I understood correctly, Obama is criticizing the “teaching of the TAKS”. I may have read his intent incorrectly, but I happen to agree.

What would be wrong with the “old fashioned” way of testing a student's knowledge of a subject at given intervals during the school year? Yes, it may have created a little stress, but passing a history, math, etc test was a great motivation to learn. So I sure don't agree with his “test every couple of years” methodology.

His equating his ownership of an Ipad with technology is junk. I have one, but that doesn't qualify me for a career in any IT field. The rest of the article dealing with illegal immigration...well it's to late for me to get out my soapbox. It was just his lame attempt to pander anyway.

17 posted on 03/28/2011 11:45:01 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: Netizen

Been there done that. It didn’t work. Have you actually practiced what you preach?


18 posted on 03/28/2011 11:45:48 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

Well, drat, my non-input posted twice.

Not nearly as illustative as your post #2. :)


19 posted on 03/28/2011 11:50:10 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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Oh brilliant!

Tests take time to grade. A much quicker solution would be to focus more on Michelle’s childhood obesity campaign. An entire class could be weighed in mere minutes!

Sorry little Sarah, 74 pounds gives you a C. C is for chubby cheeks. Next!


20 posted on 03/28/2011 11:50:26 PM PDT by Casie
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