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Libya Rebels Flee Gadhafi Assault As World Debates
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 29 Mar 2011 | Ryan Lucas

Posted on 03/29/2011 2:31:56 PM PDT by edpc

RAS LANOUF, Libya – Moammar Gadhafi's forces hammered rebels with tanks and rockets, turning their rapid advance into a panicked retreat in an hourslong battle Tuesday. The fighting underscored the dilemma facing the U.S. and its allies in Libya: Rebels may be unable to oust Gadhafi militarily unless already contentious international airstrikes go even further in taking out his forces.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; france; gadhafi; lessthanzero; libya; middleeast; missioncreep; noflyzone; obama; obamaswar
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[S]ome rebels shouted, "Sarkozy, where are you?" — a reference to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, one of the strongest supporters of using air power against Gadhafi.

Sarkozy? Didn't they know The One spoke on their behalf yesterday? Apparently, they were as unimpressed with Obama's speech as we were.

1 posted on 03/29/2011 2:31:58 PM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc

Obotulism is about to have another epic failure!


2 posted on 03/29/2011 2:41:27 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader
It'd be funny if US prestige wasn't being frittered away.

There will be hell to pay for this clown's mistakes.

3 posted on 03/29/2011 2:49:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Killed them Rebels.


4 posted on 03/29/2011 3:00:07 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: skeeter
The big problem is not American prestige but that all these enemies are learning quick when to strike and it's when a Democrat is in the Whitehouse. Used to be they lumped us all together but they are finding out, if the President has an R by his name back off, a D? You can steal city hall.
5 posted on 03/29/2011 3:00:08 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: edpc

The world debates, while Gadhafi takes care of business.


6 posted on 03/29/2011 3:01:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: edpc

This has mission creep written all over it.

Obama has started something that is going to cost us American lives, all in hopes that it will help him get reelected.

I am so fed up.


7 posted on 03/29/2011 3:08:58 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: edpc

What we fail to appreciate in Libya is that this is tribal. Ghaddafi’s tribe is the biggest with the number two tribe as his hereditary allies in running the country.

This is as close as you get to stable majority rule as you can get in this two bit country. To overthrow this with minority tribes would less to a chaotic bloodbath. And total instability.


8 posted on 03/29/2011 3:10:39 PM PDT by DJtex
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To: edpc

Obama is going to learn that you just don’t start a war and then say, “Oops, my bad”, when the enemy actually fights back.


9 posted on 03/29/2011 3:10:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skeeter

“There will be hell to pay for this clown’s mistakes.”

Yes, there will be. The blood of our own.... and all so that Obama can be reelected.


10 posted on 03/29/2011 3:12:23 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: edpc

But, but, but how come Samantha Powers isn’t hurling some more U.S. Tomahawks at some of these people? Aren’t they committing genocide? Or something? For sure they’re killing each other. Shouldn’t Samantha help kill some more of them too? Or maybe she’s not sure which ones to kill anymore? Or does it matter which ones? Just lob a few more cruise missiles in there and say we did something humanitarian.


11 posted on 03/29/2011 3:27:01 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: skeeter

“It’d be funny if US prestige wasn’t being frittered away.”

Actually, I think this is the real reason he’s doing this. Just another part of his big plan to destroy U.S. power both domestically and internationally. I mean, after all, if destruction of the U.S. is what he’s up to, he’s doing a damn fine job. Everyone keeps forgetting that destruction of the U.S is what Obama is really up to, and far from being a miserable failure, Obama has been wildly successful at achieving his goals.


12 posted on 03/29/2011 3:32:50 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: edpc

13 posted on 03/29/2011 3:33:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: edpc

“Help! We started a kinetic military action and we can’t finish it.” 0clap on. 0clap off.


14 posted on 03/29/2011 3:38:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

LBJ’s Vietnam with Kossovo Alqaeda all over it. THis is a real craper of a situation.


15 posted on 03/29/2011 3:50:12 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: skeeter
It'd be funny if US prestige wasn't being frittered away. There will be hell to pay for this clown's mistakes.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. A country that is the biggest industrial power in the world and spends more money on defense than all its allies and adversaries put together is never weak, even under someone like Obama. No one with an IQ above room temperature could ever see the US as weak. The drooling retards bin Laden and Mullah Omar perceived - in a fit of Koran-induced hallucinations - both American and Russian military weakness, deciding that the US was the Byzantine Empire and the Russians were the Persian Empire, both of which - in antiquity - had fought wars over centuries that had exhausted both empires from a manpower and financial perspective, paving the way for Islamic conquest. What these Koranic idiots savant don't seem to have noticed is that the US has never actually fought a war against Russia. This is why the period after WWII (and before the fall of the Berlin Wall) was called the Cold War. We got through the Cold War with manpower and weaponry intact. Whatever bin Laden's fantasies used to be, he now knows - tens of thousands of dead al Qaeda later - that Uncle Sam can pack a punch, even under a Community Organizer like Obama, not because Obama is any great shakes, but because we spend more money on defense than all of the other countries on Earth put together.

A country like Israel needs to demonstrate a willingness to fight. We don't.

16 posted on 03/29/2011 3:57:36 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: catnipman

Correct. See tagline.


17 posted on 03/29/2011 4:01:58 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The 0bamaNation of America slides toward death as planned.)
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To: JudgemAll
Speaking of Kosovo...

Kosovo's Mafia: How the US and allies ignore allegations of organized crime at the highest levels

18 posted on 03/29/2011 4:03:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: skeeter

I wish they were just mistakes.


19 posted on 03/29/2011 4:04:37 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Libya may be one of those situations we designed the Neutron Bomb for:

On one side: Gaddhafi - a murderous autocrat and his armies, planes, and navy
On the other: Al Qaedi, Muzzie Bros., Hezbolllah

Program about 300 or so of those bad boys to go off at about 200 feet and then send NATO in with body bags and petroleum engineers.


20 posted on 03/29/2011 4:13:39 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

nobama, the great leader, is so intelligent. nobama’s WTF foreign policy apparently is working so very, very well...very well.


21 posted on 03/29/2011 4:26:20 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: edpc
So, how is Operation ENABLE AL QAEDA going?


22 posted on 03/29/2011 4:39:03 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: normy
The big problem is not American prestige but that all these enemies are learning quick when to strike and it's when a Democrat is in the Whitehouse. Used to be they lumped us all together but they are finding out, if the President has an R by his name back off, a D? You can steal city hall.

Which is a problem in the long term because the dictators know all they have to do is lay low when a Republican is president, knowing that in 4 or 8 years we'll elect a stupid DemocRAT and they can go whole hog (pun to Islamists intended).

23 posted on 03/29/2011 4:52:33 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: skeeter
I vividly recall Pres. GW Bush being called a “cowboy” among other denigrating slurs.

Well, we're seeing how the world views us when our president is an unqualified community organizer.

I'm convinced the current administration seeks to destroy our sovereignty and our reputation.

EODGUY

24 posted on 03/29/2011 5:00:16 PM PDT by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: edpc

Evidence of how “transformative” Obama’s election really was: Never in my life did I imagine I would one day be rooting for a Moammar Gadhafi victory. But there you are. If Obama wants him out, it can only be that the rebels are even more anti-Western than Gadhafi is. The world is now a very, very strange place.


25 posted on 03/29/2011 5:09:35 PM PDT by kevao (I)
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To: skeeter
It'd be funny if US prestige wasn't being frittered away.

There will be hell to pay for this clown's mistakes.

So true.

26 posted on 03/29/2011 5:14:22 PM PDT by keat
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To: DJtex
What we fail to appreciate in Libya is that this is tribal. Ghaddafi’s tribe is the biggest with the number two tribe as his hereditary allies in running the country.

Ghaddafi may have realized that his long-term viability is dependent upon exterminating the opposing tribes. Killing all the men and boys, and distributing the women and girls among his allies.

27 posted on 03/29/2011 5:14:54 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

Of course, that point also applies to the tribally-based rebels as well.


28 posted on 03/29/2011 5:16:20 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: edpc

They are getting ready for the second state of this operation- Ground troops.


29 posted on 03/29/2011 5:21:09 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

We don’t have any ground troops we can spare right now. And who else is going to step up? I vote for the Chinese.


30 posted on 03/29/2011 5:24:49 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats are silly people - but silly people can be dangerous)
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To: popdonnelly

I vote for the Brits and French . It’s their oil after all.


31 posted on 03/29/2011 5:39:29 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: edpc
I hear a lot of conservatives and mainstream GOP beating the war drums for Libya.

Still, I can't understand for the life of me what the hell we're doing there.

And, I have no doubt that before it's said and done we will have "boots on the ground"...since I'm certain we do already.

I mean, what's a few combat brigades between friends?

The French and British should have been told: This is your problem. Fix it.

32 posted on 03/29/2011 5:57:31 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

I know Kristol is in favor. Then again, he’s a “neocon” who bought into the Bush Doctorine belief in freedom across the Middle East. However, I think the last decade has shown the population of that area is incapable of responsible self governance.


33 posted on 03/29/2011 6:02:50 PM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: edpc

Find out which horse Obama is sure does not have a chance to win the Kentucky Derby.

Put all your money on that horse.


34 posted on 03/29/2011 6:06:01 PM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in Ameirca.)
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To: edpc

We agree to some extent but you are wrong if you think that the Bush doctrine was ever about self-governance. A case in point was the administration’s effort to ignore the result of the Gaza/West election once their side lost. Bush only supported self-governance when people voted the “right” way.


35 posted on 03/29/2011 6:08:45 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: normy
if the President has an R by his name back off, a D? You can steal city hall.

Why not? It works already for the American left.

36 posted on 03/29/2011 6:12:01 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Captain Kirk

That’s kind of what I was getting at when I said “responsible and stable.” If the election is free and fair, you have to respect the outcome, but not necessarily the wisdom of the choice.


37 posted on 03/29/2011 6:19:04 PM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: TigersEye
We started a kinetic military action and we can’t finish it.

Ok, please help me out here. Just what in the he!! is a "kinetic military action"?

38 posted on 03/29/2011 6:25:02 PM PDT by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: dfwgator

I hope he kills these al quaeda bastards by the thousands!! Why are we supporting al quaeda? They killed 2700 people at the WTC and destroyed aircraft and killed Americans in the Pentagon. Then that Nidal Hussan SOB (Who still has not been executed) killed 13 and wounded 40 Brave soldiers at Ft Hood Texas. Wake the hell up. Are you just watching basketball and don’t give a crap? Hassan was nothing but a POS Wahhabi. Yes , Good luck to Qadaffi killing those sorry bastards. What the hell are we doing??


39 posted on 03/29/2011 6:33:32 PM PDT by Davidlion
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To: EODGUY

This too shall pass.


40 posted on 03/29/2011 6:47:19 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Mariner
The French and British should have been told: This is your problem. Fix it.

Most of Europe actually.

"We got no dawg in this hunt."

41 posted on 03/29/2011 7:00:53 PM PDT by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: edpc

Barack flat-out SURPRISE-ATTACKED Libya! That’s why they call him President oBOMBa!


42 posted on 03/29/2011 7:11:59 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: edpc
Wait a second...I thought Hussein said we had avoided a bloodbath....
43 posted on 03/29/2011 7:13:00 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks edpc.
Moammar Gadhafi's forces hammered rebels with tanks and rockets, turning their rapid advance into a panicked retreat in an hourslong battle Tuesday.
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "Gosh, we never thought of that."

44 posted on 03/29/2011 7:42:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: catnipman

Samantha Powers > unprecedented evil


45 posted on 03/29/2011 7:49:23 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Zhang Fei

Zhang Fei wrote:
“I wouldn’t worry too much about it. A country that is the biggest industrial power in the world and spends more money on defense than all its allies and adversaries put together is never weak, even under someone like Obama.”

It doesn’t matter how big we are or how much we spend on defense if “stupid” becomes the majority. That’s how we got the farce of a President that’s in the Whitehouse now. We have sacrificed thousands of our troops over the years to fight Communism, Marxisism and Radical Islam. At the present time, our government is chock full of all those, and they didn’t fire a shot.


46 posted on 03/29/2011 7:49:54 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Gator113
The American people need to stop joining the Army and Navy. As long as foreign leaders such as Obama have American soldiers to use, they will make war and grind them up.

Anyone who thinks Obama gives a rats ass about us or our troops is delusional.

Look at these a-holes like Hellbag Rodpig Clinton, prancing around the world like they are gods. In her wake she leaves American men by the hundreds getting buried in cemeteries. America needs to wake the-F up.

47 posted on 03/29/2011 7:52:46 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
It doesn’t matter how big we are or how much we spend on defense if “stupid” becomes the majority.

Of course it matters how much we spend on defense. With Obama, we've basically hit bottom as regards presidential caliber. That defense budget means that even with a knucklehead like him in charge, we are killing hundreds of Taliban and al Qaeda every month. If we had Britain's defense budget, we'd be lodging a complaint with the UN. This massive military capability means that Obama can't say we don't have a sufficiently well-equipped military to kill our enemies. Our enemies fear us because we have such a massive military and industrial capability that even weak American leaders can pulverize them at very little human (and therefore political) cost.

48 posted on 03/29/2011 7:58:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: edpc

Momar ain’t gonna give up to easy. Obama might regret what Hillary got him into. Though maybe Hillary knows the outcome.


49 posted on 03/29/2011 8:00:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: kevao

Obama has put us in line for a huge attitude adjustment. I may just be old-fashioned, but it makes me ill to see that bunch of P<>ssies standing on top of tanks and cars that have been incinerated from the air by state-of-the-art aircraft and shooting into the air and waving the victory sign as if they’ve done something.

It also sickens me to hear the talking heads on the news pontificating about who needs to die as if we here in the United States are the gods of the universe. There used to be a sober knowledge of the value of human life on BOTH sides of a conflict. Now, the loss of human life is treated as if it’s nothing more than a video game. The death of human beings is bandied about like a joke. We talk about “American Interests” as if that’s all the justification we need to have our way.

I just hope we all don’t have to suffer that “attitude adjustment” along with Odumbo when it comes.


50 posted on 03/29/2011 8:07:38 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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