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To: Pilsner

“OK. Problem is, the ain’t no such animal as a mere “born” American citizen, and if there ever was one, there hasn’t been since the Adoption of the 14th Amendment”

LOLOLOL the 14th amendmendment established “mere” born citizenship. Freed negro slaves, once considered property, had a an inheirent problem with citizenship status. Since their parents were not citizens, and they had no citizenship to pass on to their children.

Possible solutions included naturalization or forming a quality of citizenship, that did not meet the standards set by jus sanquines, and, of course, the higher quality jus soli PLUS jus sanquines of the Natural Born Citizen (born in country to two citizen parents.)

Naturalization did not seem a viable solution, because it would subject former slaves to the whims of local juristictions.

The solution was to establish citizenship based merely upon jus soli. Birth to the land. (serfdom in medival times.) Mere born citizenship. Restrictions on this type of citizenship included the circumstances surrounding the parents status in the US, legal residency.

The USSC case of Kim Wong Arc applied the 14th Amendment to persons other than former slaves and their children.

To state “OK. Problem is, the ain’t no such animal as a mere “born” American citizen,” is willful ignorance on your part. And you claim legal expertise.....liar!

“You can peddle your Birther BS all you want, but there is a reason no competent lawyer has touched it in the last three years.”

Nonsense.... there has been no lack of lawyers willing to file lawsuits. The problem has been of judicial cowardice to actually have an evidentuary finding on the facts, or as Justice Thomas said “....we’re avoiding that question...”

You seem to like to throw out the term “birthers” with abandon, seemingly as an attempt to denigrate those that won’t buy your line of BS.

Obama does not meet the eligibility requirements as set forth in Article II of the Constitution. Fact son!

The solution for him is to try and nullify the requirement by changing the historical and legal definition, as understood by the Founders, to “Born in the USA” In the mind of the electorate, and feeble minded. Enablers, such as yourself, that push that meme, that mere birth in the US is sufficient to meet the Constitutional requirements for the Office of the President are the real “birthers.”

A couple of years ago FR was invaded by trolls just like you, whose whole thought on the matter was....”he was born here, he is eligible.” Nonsense.....go crawl back under your bridge, troll.

“Now I got plenty to do without trying to play buzz killer for every group of people playing internet parlor games, that they delude themselves into thinking are meaningful movements.”

A real mouthful of mush ya got there! Got something better to do? Then go do it, Troll! You can leave anytime. How about now and forever?

The remainder of your post illustrates your cowardice. You don’t think that the issue is “winnable” forgetting that dismissing the issue, effectively condones it by setting precedent for future usurpers...... BTW When does adherence to the law make one seem looney?

Stick your head in the sand, Troll. I don’t want to hear about the other laws you want to nullify by just ignoring them.....

As I said above go back and crawl under your bridge Troll!


203 posted on 04/04/2011 12:53:32 PM PDT by Forty-Niner
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To: Forty-Niner
A couple of years ago FR was invaded by trolls just like you

Forty-Niner Since Nov 11, 2009
Pilsner Since Nov 28, 2000

204 posted on 04/04/2011 1:24:58 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Forty-Niner
The solution was to establish citizenship based merely upon jus soli. Birth to the land. (serfdom in medival times.) Mere born citizenship. Restrictions on this type of citizenship included the circumstances surrounding the parents status in the US, legal residency.

Just the opposite. The 14th Amendment was intended to make sure that slaves, and their progeny, would not be reduced to demi-semi-quasi citizens, through the misapplication of some legal theory.

205 posted on 04/04/2011 1:32:15 PM PDT by Pilsner
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