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Alaska battles over how lifeblood oil is taxed
AP via Fuel Fix ^ | April 1, 2011 | BECKY BOHRER

Posted on 04/01/2011 5:27:36 AM PDT by thackney

A high-stakes political battle is being waged in Alaska over whether to cut oil production taxes, an issue that could determine whether the trans-Alaska pipeline keeps pumping billions of dollars into the state’s coffers.

On one side are Gov. Sean Parnell, top House Republicans and the oil industry, who argue that the current tax structure is stifling investment and must be changed to boost oil production and avert a now-looming shutdown of the pipeline that carries at least 10 percent of the nation’s crude oil production, on average.

On the other side are House Democrats and leading senators, who say the Parnell administration hasn’t justified the need for tax cuts and credits that could cost up to $2 billion a year, and they question what — if anything — the state will get in return.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: energy; northslope; oil
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To: Eska
Yes, it's called an owner state

That's a nice sounding euphemism. I always knew the main problem with Soviets was they had a bad PR agency that didn't give nice sounding names to things.

21 posted on 04/01/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: thackney

bfl


22 posted on 04/01/2011 9:06:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: thackney
If you look at what the state will give up, 2 billion/year and what the state will gain; it's a big loser. Hard to imagine, but most average Repubs up here are against this tax reduction too. They have watched the corruption over the last 20 years and it disgusts them to no end. I'd rather pay state taxes and leave the oil in the ground actually; rather than see another Dem gov elected; kinda how it works up here.

People that work in the oil industry want the tax reduction, I don't blame them either. I want to see AK gets it's value out of our oil so as to benefit the state and to my kid's kids.

Once they have spent the 14 billion, then calls for state taxes will begin and the repubs will be held accountable for their actions. Now the fun begins, oil industry will try buying off Senate over the nx 2 years like they have bought off the legislature.

I remember when the state govt spent 10 million trying to throw the "spend the PFD for good causes" referendum in late 90's. The people voted 87% against it. This tax reduction is on the same order and will in the end blow up in the REpubs faces. Then the Oil Industry will throw money to buy off the dems; how it works up here.

Pay attention to what Palin has to say. She's the only one's perspective that I would trust. If she says the tax reduction is a good thing for Alaska and it's people, you'll never hear a bad word from me about it. I doubt she will say that though. Boy we need her back as governor up here, Parnell is a crook like all the rest we have had over the years.

23 posted on 04/01/2011 9:12:22 AM PDT by Eska
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To: Eska
If you look at what the state will give up, 2 billion/year and what the state will gain; it's a big loser.

Next year versus the next 20 years, I believe they will benefit most from getting a tax structure more in line with other areas.

It may not be the most popular opinion in Alaska today. If they don't change it; I suspect a decade from now it will be.

Kind of like what Whittier went through with their cruise ship head tax. Sure they were far closer to Anchorage than Seward. But it's a pretty bus or train ride and that is where the tourist went for a decade.

24 posted on 04/01/2011 9:18:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Eska
Pay attention to what Palin has to say.

I think you will never hear her say good or bad about ACES again. I would like to be wrong about that, but I doubt it will happen.

Regardless of her opinion today, it would draw a spotlight to the profit tax increase she proposed and was put in place while she was in office.

That is a contradictory stance with the opinion of most the base who support her today. Of course that is only my opinion and there are many that will disagree me.

25 posted on 04/01/2011 9:24:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney
That is a contradictory stance with the opinion of most the base who support her today. Of course that is only my opinion and there are many that will disagree me.

You can bet during the primaries, her opponents will bring it up.

26 posted on 04/01/2011 9:28:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Her best response is not to give an opinion, but simply respond that Alaska needs to decide what is best for Alaska in today's market. Which is true. And which will be argued over by those inside and outside Alaska ad nauseum.

I think she could only be hurt by either being for or against it today. If for it, she can be shown to support a rather high tax in today's market. If against it, it was her proposal in the first place.

I think she will never address again. And regardless of her opinion today, I would like to be wrong that she won't respond.

27 posted on 04/01/2011 9:32:51 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: dfwgator
Her best response is not to give an opinion, but simply respond that Alaska needs to decide what is best for Alaska in today's market. Which is true. And which will be argued over by those inside and outside Alaska ad nauseum.

I think she could only be hurt by either being for or against it today. If for it, she can be shown to support a rather high tax in today's market. If against it, it was her proposal in the first place.

I think she will never address again. And regardless of her opinion today, I would like to be wrong that she won't respond.

28 posted on 04/01/2011 9:32:51 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

The late great Pissant called Palin; “McCain in a skirt”.

Her record and actions do indicate that overlook. Her popularity is also slipping fast in Alaska as well as other Western States;

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/12/for-palin-theres-no-place-like-homein.html


29 posted on 04/01/2011 9:36:30 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
She still has a lot of support.

I don't mean to trash her. She has plenty of good qualities in her leadership. I disagree with what she did on this topic. I am likely quite biased on this topic as well.

30 posted on 04/01/2011 9:39:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

Production has been declining for more than a decade. Drilling new wells has been declining in recent years, even as the world price of crude has been rising and with tax incentives for drilling and production in Alaska’s oil tax laws.

The immediate tax issue should be one of a course correction.

Get rid of “tax incentives” and “tax credits” for oil production. The world oil price is incentive enough. But, also encourage as much production as possible, and thereby as much revenue from production as possible, by lowering the oil taxes as well.

It might be time for Alaska to consider getting out of the oil business.

It could have all it’s royalty rights, now and into the future, sold in a giant “public offering”. At this time with oil prices so high there would be no lack of takers. Then it can convert the proceeds of the sale to a huge endowment fund and secure a steady annual revenue stream out of that fund, instead of depending on the ups and downs of world oil prices; and considering that’s its oil resources may be on the declining edge of supply.

In other words - convert as much of its “rights” as it can - while prices are high - into secured diversified assets now, as declining production brings continuing declining revenue.


31 posted on 04/01/2011 9:39:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: thackney
I think you will never hear her say good or bad about ACES again.

NYT, There You Go Again - Sarah Palin

32 posted on 04/01/2011 9:51:44 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: thackney
Do you know who owns what in Ak as to mineral rights? I'm referring to state owned versus federal owned properties. Doesn't the Feds own almost 70% of the land in AK and I'd guess they own the rights to those minerals. Or did they cede the mineral rights to the state and only keep surface rights. If the feds still own their oil then how does the state tax apply to that oil? Do you have any knowledge of the situation? thanks.
33 posted on 04/01/2011 10:03:39 AM PDT by deport
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To: Doe Eyes

Thank you. I’m glad to be wrong about her not responding.

I don’t agree with her on this topic, but I don’t agree with anyone on everything.


34 posted on 04/01/2011 10:03:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney
You have always maintained a high level of integrity on this forum and I respect that.

I also agree, that Palin has good qualities, but she has taken many wrong turns and has done things that are not at all in line with Conservative thinking. I won't go into detail, we know what some of those are from being here as long as we have.

I have moved into the Williston Basin myself and found a good home, so I was not hurt too badly with what Palin did in Alaska. I was about ready to move out of the State anyway. One can only live in the Dark and feast-or-famine kind of world for just so long. Resident Alaskans who have been there their entire life would disagree, but they are the usual kind who live in Villages or subsist in the remote regions with fishing, guiding/hunting or tourism.

35 posted on 04/01/2011 10:06:43 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: deport

The feds own the mineral rights to the federal lands.

The natives own the mineral rights to the native lands.

The state owns the mineral rights to the state and privately held lands.

Federal Government owns about 60% of Alaska. Natives own almost 12%.

http://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/factsht/land_own.pdf


36 posted on 04/01/2011 10:09:44 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

That I how I understand it myself.

The Oil Companies not only pay a royalty to those 3 entities, they also pay the State and the residents of the state, through the Permanent Fund.

Alaska is one of the few states obligates the Oil Companies to so many outside taxes, fees and charges for producing their Oil. It is extremely difficult for them to make a profit, regardless of the price. Many have indeed pulled out for Canada, North Dakota, Nebraska, etc,.

They are still stuck with all that invested equipment and infrastructure and must remain, but they do so with just operating at a minimum, to reduce their losses.

It’s a sad thing to see an otherwise formerly healthy industry get choked to death, even with $106 Oil.


37 posted on 04/01/2011 10:18:20 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: triumphant values

You see, in Alaska; the state & it’s people own the mineral wealth underground over entire state; not land owner like in North Dakota.


38 posted on 04/01/2011 11:00:00 AM PDT by Eska
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To: deport

I forgot to add that although there are some taxes paid to the state will getting oil from federal land, not all state taxes apply and certainly not the royalties.

But very little Alaska oil is from federal today. A bit offshore is all I think.

ANWR is not open and NPRA has been delayed for permits for years even though leases were sold many years ago. More of those so called idle leases I suppose.


39 posted on 04/01/2011 2:52:43 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Eska
You see, in Alaska; the state & it’s people own the mineral wealth underground over entire state; not land owner like in North Dakota.

Great. You know what? We should put that system in place for the entire United States. The state can own all the profitable assets and then no one will ever have to pay taxes again.

It's brilliant. Why didn't humans ever come up with this system and implement it before somewhere?

Oh, wait.

40 posted on 04/01/2011 3:43:21 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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