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To: Still Thinking
So each and every person that has ever broken the speed limit has "demonstrated an inability to follow traffic laws"?

With that line of thinking, I can assume that just about every single person is guilty of demonstrating "...an inability to follow the law..."! I mean, have we not all did SOMETHING which is illegal? Jay-walking? Heck, if something ACCIDENTALLY fly's out of your vehicle, you "littered." Here is one that most people don't know: if you have burned an open flame (which includes BBQ grills - unless flame is covered at all time) within 200' of a living structure you are violating FEDERAL burn standards. Have you ever used a newspaper to start your wood-burning fireplace? You violated the Federal Ban on burning house hold trash!!!

I think I read here on FR once, that Alinsky wrote that the best way to break down society is to make a criminal out of everyone, then you will second guess when you should "judge" others! I am definitely paraphrasing (and from really bad memory!!)!

There are some many laws which are still on the books, which are not enforced, but technically are still being "violated." In the late 90's in Texas they did a law review and some laws were still on the books which were just stupid in today's world (like you had to carry a lantern in front of all non-horse drawn carriages (cars) within Houston city limits) or really out-dated, morality laws (a known prostitute could not walk on the sidewalk with "normal" folk - she had to step down into the muddy streets to allow good, church-going folk to pass by - Dallas). So, we are all guilty of some infraction - it is absolutely ludicrous to use the "anyone convicted...has demonstrated an inability to follow he law!"

I was directing this at the article, not you.
16 posted on 04/05/2011 8:39:28 AM PDT by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: ExTxMarine; Publius; Billthedrill
Here is one that most people don't know: if you have burned an open flame (which includes BBQ grills - unless flame is covered at all time) within 200' of a living structure you are violating FEDERAL burn standards.

Well, it's only fair if I do. I mean, I feel pretty violated by the "standards", so I should get to do some violating too.

I think I read here on FR once, that Alinsky wrote that the best way to break down society is to make a criminal out of everyone, then you will second guess when you should "judge" others! I am definitely paraphrasing (and from really bad memory!!)!

Wouldn't be surprised if Alinsky did say that, or you might be thinking of this scene from Atlas Shrugged, where Dr. Ferris lets Hank Reardon in on the big gubmint scam they had going:

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men.

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt.

Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Some Freeper even has it as the beginning of his profile page.

18 posted on 04/05/2011 9:05:54 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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