Posted on 04/05/2011 8:27:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“Paul Ryan would have my vote.”
As a conservative libertarian, he would have my vote, too!
I am a conservative libertarian.
I don’t lie, and I’m not cheap.
Though, I do agree that Ron Paul is insane.
“This is why libertarians get about 1.0% of the vote everytime...they live in la-la land.”
As a party they may get 1% o the vote.
But, as TEA Partiers go, they get a lot of votes.
Though, I’m not talking about the big L Libertarians like Ron Paul. I’m talking about small l libertarians...conservative libertarians like myself.
You know...those who support Palin, Bachmann, etc.
Face it...those who support those two fine women, and others like them, aren’t establishment Republicans.
Libertarians may I remind you that it’s been over a year since the Dems, who were completely in control of Congress at that time, were supposed to pass a budget for this year. At this time, we should be working on next years budget but we are still stuck on last year/this year’s. Please place the heat where it belongs.
i did see yesterday that he assumed a 2.8% unemployment rate off in the future,like 2028? Last time it was that low was right after the Korean war so its a dubious assumption.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Ryan’s budget proposal EVENTUALLY balance the budget? And doesn’t it do that by NOT raising income taxes? Aren’t those GOOD things?
Am I missing something here?
“You need the votes to get it done.”
Madison set up a government where you need the votes to get it done but you don’t need the votes to stop it. Republicans have the votes to stop it.
I think many Conservatives have bought into the Democrat and Media invention that the compromise between what the Republicans vote for is 1/2 way to what the Democrats would vote for. Not so. Our founders decided that Liberty would be protected if only what Democrats AND Republicans freely agreed to became law. The baseline position with our constitution is that NOTHING gets done and its branches work from there.
You get that impression don’t you. If Ryan’s plan is insufficient ( and I’m sire it is) Republicans are going to be dragged into a Libertarian lifestyle. Every man for himself.
You get that impression don’t you. If Ryan’s plan is insufficient (and I’m sure it is) Republicans are going to be dragged into a Libertarian lifestyle. Every man for himself.
Why should I compare Republicans to Democrats? That’s like comparing a D student to a rapist. Comparing what Ryan proposes to what needs to be done, it falls short.
How can Conservatives cheer a budget plan that fails to eliminate the deficit in the next ten years?
Ryan’s plan is an excellent litmus test for who is a Conservative vs. who is a Republican.
Pretty well sums up the Ryan position, keep digging.
China leaders are scared of their own people and the thought of going to war with them is childish at best.
LOL, you will be saying the same thing a year from now, no budget. Not going to be one the rats have the winning hand.
So we add 20 trillion to the national debt and then in five years we start on a downward slope, to a balanced budget I get it and we have 2.8% unemployment. At what point do we start singing happy days?
IBD has a good graphic showing how the Ryan plan will eliminate the national debt....in 2050.
Now there’s a selling point. We all know how wise it is to rely on politicians keeping to a plan for 40 years that doesn’t line their pockets or ensure their reelection. Yep, I feel better now.
The Libertarians make a good point, but they do not live in the world of realpolitik.
Ryan is a good man, and there is a HUGE difference between him and BO.
I look at Ryan’s work as a good first step.
Let me offer an analogy. I have a friend who is on blood pressure medicine. She is trying to lose weight and hopefully get off the meds. But her doctor has already warned her: even IF you are able to get off these meds, it will not be “cold turkey”.
The medicine will be slowly reduced, until her body can handle it.
Newt Gingrich used the phrase “wither on the vine” a few years back...NOT meaning he would refuse to fund it, but that the NEED for the program would be reduced through natural economics.
Let’s not allow the demand for perfection ruin the better of the two viable plans.
“Go take a simple test. It’s at the nolan chart.”
The password was “Reagan sucks” I refused and was denied entry.
“You found this site so that one shouldn’t be so hard!”
LOL you’ve been here since 2010. LOL
You’re irrelevancy as a Paulian is noted.
“Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Ryan’s budget proposal EVENTUALLY balance the budget? And doesn’t it do that by NOT raising income taxes? Aren’t those GOOD things? Am I missing something here?”
You are clearly missing the irrelevancy of Losertarians. The premise is that you get more than 1% of the vote and not more than 3% of the vote.
Then you prance off, declare victory and pronounce yourself ideologically pure. All claims of irrelevancy are then shouted down with, “we won the CPAC strawpoll”
I don’t see any lies in this article. Republicans have been lying to conservatives for too long now and look where it has gotten the country. By sticking with Republicans no matter what, we have gotten ourselves the Rino party in power.
Trimming spending here and there is not going derail this monster Republicans and Democrats have created. There has to be a new scope of work set for the Federal government in line with it’s orginal constitutional purpose and power if we hope to get out from under the burden of this monster.
I agree with you that having libertarians driving the car of reform is dangerous and I propose that it is as dangerous as permitting Rinos to continue driving the car. Libertarians are amoral and mindless drunks in pursuit of an extra-constitutional ideology while the Rinos are following Soros’ mindless pursuit of social and economic international Marxism.
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