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Suburban Survivalists: 'I Just Want to Be Prepared' (must see video- Prepper Ping!)
ABC News ^

Posted on 04/10/2011 5:31:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Zoltan Hites clamped a pair of handcuffs around his wife Christine's wrists, helped her into the trunk of a car parked in a parking garage, slammed the lid and waited for her to escape.

Less than five minutes later, the trunk popped open and Christine climbed out. Doesn't exactly seem like a romantic weekend, but they were learning how to make a quick getaway.

They're not spies-in-training. They're survivalists -- people who are dedicated to being ready for and surviving the worst-case scenarios.

The Hiteses paid about $800 a piece to join a dozen or so other people at a Los Angeles hotel for three-day retreat with onPoint Tactical. Under the supervision of instructor Kevin Reeve, the participants will learn extremely advanced survival skills, such as how to pick a handcuff lock with a bobby pin.

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Prepping is becoming mainstream.
1 posted on 04/10/2011 5:31:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks Red!


2 posted on 04/10/2011 5:37:54 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Why did it take her 5 minutes to escape? The trunk of my car has a handle on the inside.


3 posted on 04/10/2011 5:38:53 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

That woman should be afraid of the tanning salon.


4 posted on 04/10/2011 5:39:29 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Before you get loaded into a trunk make a particular point to fight to the death.


5 posted on 04/10/2011 5:40:04 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Before I am ever placed in the trunk of a car, my Kimber will be empty.


6 posted on 04/10/2011 5:41:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Graybeard58

What do you do if you are bound with plastic ties? If things degenerated into lawlessness, why bother to hide someone in a car trunk? And why would someone kidnap some SAHM? Likely they would rob her, use her and kill her afterward.

Better to plan how you will stay warm/cool despite extreme energy inflation, hydrated, fed, have access to whatever medications you need and what skills you have to remain alive and productive.


7 posted on 04/10/2011 5:52:32 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Red in Blue PA

Ping zing


8 posted on 04/10/2011 6:01:18 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

With pretty much everything I have seen in the past, by the time a trend makes it to ABC (and the mainstream in general) it is a passing fad and has worked it’s way to self-parody. I hope that is not the case with survivalism.

First Aid, food storage and prep, improvised shelter, general situational awareness skills, marksmanship and tactical training, etc., are important skill sets that anyone should have.

If you are learning to get out of handcuffs in the trunk of a car, I would assume you have all the other basics covered. Frankly, I can’t imagine a scenario wherein I or my assailants would be alive to put put me in the damn trunk to begin with.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 6:13:59 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: reformedliberal

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but kidnappings are starting to happen along the US border.

We have lawlessness.....no need to degenerate into it.


10 posted on 04/10/2011 6:16:48 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: spodefly

Maybe not you, but what of your wife or child?

As societies degenerate and collapse, kidnapping soars. Even unplanned “express kidnappings” where the perps grab a target of opportunity based on factors such as race, sex, age, appearance of affluence, perceived value of car etc.

The best book on this is Fernando Aquirre’s “Modern Survival Manual,” based on his experiences in Argentina during the millenial economic collapse in Buenos Aires.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_42?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=fernando+aguirres+modern+survival+handbook&sprefix=fernando+aguirres+modern+survival+handbook


11 posted on 04/10/2011 6:31:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Yea, I am not discounting training on any front. We are importing some vile crap into the US every day and the examples from Mexico and Argentina are instructive. I would like to believe though that by the time you have worked your way to anti-kidnapping training you at least know basic first aid, food prep, and urban tactical defensive and survival skills.

Or even better, that you have your bunker compound in a rural area away from the kidnappy types ...


12 posted on 04/10/2011 7:07:16 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

I obviously didn’t attend this training session, and we both have only a reporter’s description to work from...

That said, I’d guess that a primary reason for the trunk training was to impress upon the class the need to NEVER GET STUFFED INTO A TRUNK. Keep your eyes going 360, and fight like a wolverine before that happens. And regard your family members as potential kidnap victims at all times, and train them accordingly.


13 posted on 04/10/2011 7:13:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The odds of me ever having a bobby pin in my possession are pretty damned small considering I have no hair. LOL. I do however have a handcuff key on my key ring.

One never knows. They have come in handy at a couple of parties we’ve been to. LOL.


14 posted on 04/10/2011 7:21:22 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Ping.


15 posted on 04/10/2011 7:27:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Lurker
They have come in handy at a couple of parties we’ve been to. LOL.

Even in my wildest days, I've never been a party where I needed a handcuff key. You've been to several.

I'd like to have a beer with you some time.

16 posted on 04/10/2011 7:34:08 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bump!


17 posted on 04/10/2011 8:04:28 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

If you have never seen Richard Pryor’s monologue about letting somebody tie you up go look at it. Its hilarious but totally true.

Once you are tied up and in the trunk of a car you are basically screwed.


18 posted on 04/10/2011 8:21:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Same with fast food or convenience store employees, in the event of a robbery, never go willingly into the walk in cooler. Nothing good will happen there.


19 posted on 04/10/2011 8:29:32 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: reformedliberal

You can open plastic ties with a paper clip.


20 posted on 04/10/2011 8:32:54 AM PDT by org.whodat
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