Posted on 04/10/2011 1:39:15 PM PDT by kronos77
Also check out The 9th Company, its a Russian film about Afghanistan..pretty good flick.
A war of survival for many involved.
Fittingly, the climactic scene featured a couple of mushroom clouds. All in all, a proper ending to an existential war.
Hmmm.
Lets negotiate, would you accept as a close second, “We Were Soldiers Once, and Young?
You are correct about infantry tactics.
But, part of the horde treatment must also result from the atrocities they committed against civilians in both WW1 and WW2.
Vas like Alamo, only Patriotic Fatherland Patriots make better movie.
Yeah, Ok. Whatever.
I do like your mini giraffe though.
Just finished watching, Kronos. Thanks for posting this. I saved it after I sent it to my email list.
I have that one, on DVD. Good film. It does touch on historical reality- a VDV (Airborne) unit was tasked with maintaining a hilltop position overlooking an important supply route. The position got hit- really hit, by a huge Muj unit, that attacked standing up and marching uphill into the Soviet fire. Parts of the position were overrun.
Then there was the Lend/Lease program, of which the U.S. supplied virtually all the material.
Big wars are won by logistics.
"The USSR was highly dependent on rail transportation, but the war practically shut down rail equipment production: only about 92 locomotives were produced. 2,000 locomotives and 11,000 railcars were supplied under Lend-Lease. Likewise, the Soviet air force received 18,700 aircraft, which amounted to about 14% of Soviet aircraft production (19% for military aircraft)".
"Although most Red Army tank units were equipped with Soviet-built tanks, their logistical support was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks. Indeed by 1945 nearly two-thirds of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built. Trucks such as the Dodge 3/4 ton and Studebaker 2½ ton, were easily the best trucks available in their class on either side on the Eastern Front. American shipments of telephone cable, aluminium, canned rations, and clothing were also critical."
I know. The Russians used human-wave assaults throughout the war, the Germans not so much. The enormous disparity in casualties bears this out.
I don’t think Eastern Europe felt “saved” from 1945 to 1989; they were enslaved. Under Nazism most could leave if they wanted to, most could practice their religion, and own property.
Hitler was evil; Stalin was worse. Ask the Poles, Ukrainians, and others that lived under him; we can’t ask the millions who died under him. Stalin certainly didn’t help us in return for the weapons we sent him; he didn’t fight the Japanese until the final weeks of the war (while all those Americans died in the Pacific at their hands).
The Soviets invaded Poland with the Germans in 1939, but France & Britain apparently didn’t feel strongly committed enough to their treaty to declare war on Russia along with Germany. I’m sure when the Soviets killed all of those Poles in Katyn they knew there would be no repercussions (and there haven’t been).
Because of military restrictions imposed by Versailles, the Soviets trained many German pilots in the 1930s until Hitler’s “coming out” party; they were birds of a feather (national socialism & international socialism). All that was in question was who got to rule what; that was the cause of their antagonism.
“He mentioned that the Germans did nothing noble on the Eastern front then he detailed it.”
Many minorities in the Soviet Union (especially Ukrainians) greeted the Axis as liberators; Russia admitted in the last five years that they deliberately sent troops behind the lines to stir up the Germans, causing retaliations against the Soviet civilians to drive them back into the Soviet fold (and it worked).
Doesn’t work for me?
It looks typically Russian. The rock has a concrete appearance.
Plus Partisans of Vilna for the documentary version.
The Nazis had the Slavs in their crosshairs, even if they were blue eyed blonds with nearly 100% Swedish background.
I really don't think anything the Germans did in WWII is defensible ~ NOT ONE THING.
Bump it for later
Bump it for later
Glad Patton did not get his war! My dad was ready to fight the Russians while with Patton's Army. He even had the opportunity to give Patton his excuse for war in an altercation with a Russian officer.
The people who lived in that part of the world will judge the merits of Nazism and Bolshevism; the first half of the 20th century indicates they preferred the former, usually as a defense against the latter.
The example of the Ukrainian women is great; how many Ukrainians DIED as unpaid slave laborers in the 1930s and 1950s? There was a reason why they preferred Hitler to Stalin; they knew Stalin wasn’t the cuddly “Uncle Joe” our lying government sold to us, and they didn’t yet know just how bad Hitler really was.
If WWII was really between the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, the US had no reason to fight in it. If Japan attacked us, we could destroy them while avoiding Europe (as Stalin did, fighting in Europe while avoiding the Far East). There was no reason to choose sides when Satan battled Lucifer; the only losers were the people in that part of the world.
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