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Exclusive: Trump to Announce His Run for President
Newsmax ^ | April 12, 2011 | Ronald Kessler

Posted on 04/13/2011 6:28:02 PM PDT by RobinMasters

If you wonder whether Donald Trump is serious about running for president, tune in to the finale of “The Celebrity Apprentice” on May 15.

Trump plans to say on the NBC show that he will be holding a press conference in the next few days. At that press conference in the Trump Tower in New York, Trump will be announcing his candidacy for the presidency.

Even then, many will snicker that it’s all a publicity stunt. But that defies the facts and common sense.

Of all the people on the planet, Donald Trump is the last person who needs more publicity. And if he is riding a groundswell of support, why would he—or anyone else—decide not to run?

Since writing the first story in January to report that Trump will definitely run, I have been amazed at how much the idea of a Trump presidency is catching on across the political spectrum. As I wrote in my story, Don’t Underestimate Donald Trump for President, he can be outrageous and boastful. But when it comes to a successful run at the presidency, don’t count him out.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: mentor2k
>>>>>I love the chicken-headed conservatives gathering under our tent.

Our tent?... you must mean the liberal tent.

Conservatives want NOTHING to do with Trump or you Trumpsters. No way, bucko.

261 posted on 04/14/2011 3:18:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: mlo
That's incorrect. The status of the parents is not relevant if the person is born within the country. This parents have to be citizens thing is a Birther fantasy. It is not, and has never been, the rule. And nothing about the phrase "natural born citizen" implies such a meaning.

You are woefully misinformed or dishonest, and you have been corrected on this issue in the past.

George Washington, John Jay, and the Natural Law Definition of “Natural Born Citizen”

George Washington, John Jay, and the Natural Law Definition of “Natural Born Citizen”

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Does this mean that George Washington and John Jay were the First Birthers?                                            1 Dragon

On April 30, 1789,  George Washington took the oath of office as President of the United States from the balcony of Federal Hall in New York City.  The President and Congress shared space in Federal Hall with the New York Society Library.

Some of the records of that Library are of particular interest when considering the influence of the works of Emmerich de Vattel on our Founding Fathers.

Why does this matter? Because of how Vattel defined a term that our Founders wrote into our Constitution, and the implications to Barack Hussein Obama.

From Article II Section 1:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

From Vattel:

natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens

There is good reason to believe that Vattel’s definition of natural born citizen played a central role in a letter that Founder John Jay wrote to George Washington, then Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention, on July 25th, 1787:

“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

On October 5, 1789, President George Washington checked out two books from the New York Society Library: Emmerich de Vattel’s “Law of Nations” and volume 12 of the English House of Commons Debates.

The ledger does not record whether the president came in person or sent a messenger, nor is there any record of either volume being returned, or the president or vice-president being fined.

A few news stories recently have made much ado about how large the library fine would be in today’s dollars. But those same stories have neglected the importance of which books Washington checked out.

Again, it is important that we understand the relationship between President George Washington, first Chief Justice John Jay, the works of Vattel, and the U.S. Constitution.

The U.S. Supreme Court held its first session on Feb. 1, 1790, in New York City. The New York Society Library charging ledger provides a record of the books borrowed by Chief Justice John Jay, including:

    Literature. The works of Jonathan Swift; “Don Quixote”, Voltaire’s, “Candidus, or “All For the Best,” as the volume is noted in the ledger; “The Fair Syrian, a novel”; Frances Burney’s, “Cecilia, or Memoirs of an Heiress”; “Arabian Nights Entertainments, consisting of one thousand and one stories, related by the Sultaness of the Indies” and John Aubrey’s “Miscellanies,” a collection of stories on ghosts and dreams.
    History. Plutarch’s, “Lives”; “Lives of the Admirals, and other Eminent British Seamen”; “The History of the Five Indian Nations of Canada”; “The History of the Revolution of South Carolina, from a British Province to an Independent State”; and “An Essay on the Life of the Honorable Major-General Israel Putnam.”
    Travel. Captain James Cook’s, “A Voyage towards the South Pole, and Round the World”; “A Tour through Sicily and Malta”; “Travels into Muscovy, Persia, and Paris of the East-Indies, containing an accurate description of whatever is most remarkable in those countries”; “A Voyage Round the World in the Years 1766-1769,” by the Comte Louis Antoine de Bougainville; “A General Description of China, containing the topography of the fifteen provinces which compose this vast empire”; “Travels in Spain”; “Travels to Discover the Source of the Nile in 1768-1773″; and “Travels in North America in the Years 1780-1782″, by the Marquis Francois Jean de Chastellux.
    Science. Comte de Buffon’s “Natural History”; “Chambers’, Cyclopaedia, or General Dictionary of Arts and Sciences”; and “Essays on the Intellectual Powers of Man.”

Chief Justice Jay must have had his own collection of law books, for few of the books borrowed by him from the New York Society Library are law-related.

As that author concluded, there is little doubt that the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court had his own collection of law books. And since John Jay wrote to George Washington on multiple occasions, sometimes referencing Vattel, I think there is little doubt that John Jay’s library included the works of Vattel. Here is an excerpt from one of Jay’s letters to Washington… this one being from 28 August 1790:

… comprized within two Classes vizt cases of urgent necessity, and cases of convenience—The present case belongs to the latter. Vattel who well understood the Subject, says in the 7th chapter of his 3d Book— That an innocent Passage is due to all Nations with whom a State is at Peace, and that this …

(That URL link may not preserve the search results, so just do a search yourself on the bolded text).

Other references by the Founders to Vattel can be found here.

Now George Washington, having a background as a military General, not an attorney, did not have a copy of Vattel’s works in his personal library. At one of his earliest opportunities to check out Vattel’s work, George Washington did so, and apparently kept it in his library permanently.

Our founders founded this country on “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God“.

Vattel was the de facto authority on the “THE LAW OF NATIONS OR PRINCIPLES OF THE LAW OF NATURE APPLIED TO THE CONDUCT AND AFFAIRS OF NATIONS AND SOVEREIGNS”.

Now, if John Jay and George Washington had meant for the usage of “natural born citizen” in Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution to mean something other than how Vattel defined it, don’t you think they would have explicitly said so?

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262 posted on 04/14/2011 4:51:01 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: mentor2k

I have some reservations about Donald Trump, but none of them are the baseless criticisms I have seen so far...

I left the Republican party when they nominated McCain...

And after just finishing Donald Rumsfeld’s book yesterday, Rumsfeld would be my ideal president. (I sincerely doubt that the other 90% of my fellow Americans could get past the first chapter.)

It’s a crying shame that after all Rumsfeld has done for his country and as many times he has served in administrations who all valued his advice, nobody listened or took his advice. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan would have been resolved already.

I will vote for Trump, maybe even campaign for him if he is not just stirring the pot and really runs.

I will likewise vote for Sara Palin.

I will not vote for McCain. I will not vote for Giuliani. I will not vote for Huckabee. I am very sad to say I will not vote for Newt Gingrich either. He was done a long time ago.

The GOP needs to grow a pair of elephant testicles.


263 posted on 04/14/2011 5:17:07 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: mentor2k

And I won’t vote for Romney either...


264 posted on 04/14/2011 5:22:28 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Prokopton

Hell, I’d vote for Bachmann at the top of the ticket...

I’d love to see Donald Rumsfeld as president, but sadly Americans and many Republicans are too #%&$#@ing stupid.


265 posted on 04/14/2011 5:26:27 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: RichInOC

Most people in his position would play the same stategy.

And if Trump does get the nomination, go ahead and vote for Obama.


266 posted on 04/14/2011 6:44:34 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: Col Frank Slade
"Trump with Alan West as VP would be pretty damn interesting to watch ."

I don't know anything about Alan West and will look up the info. Thanks.


267 posted on 04/14/2011 7:00:34 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: profit_guy

I don’t vote for Democrats.


268 posted on 04/14/2011 7:05:42 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Diggity

I’d like a true conservative, not just someone “new.”

Trump is not new anyway, and is using us. I have Trump burn out.


269 posted on 04/14/2011 8:02:12 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: profit_guy

“IF Trump chooses to run, then the GOP have NO CHOICE but to nominate him, because IF he does run as an independent then the Dems win FOR SURE. Trump is in the catbird seat and he knows it!”

Guess this would force all of the front-runners to also say they will run 3rd party, if they lose in the Republican primary.

Trump is turning this into a circus.


270 posted on 04/14/2011 8:13:26 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: meadsjn
"You are woefully misinformed or dishonest, and you have been corrected on this issue in the past."

Back at ya.

In fact I'm correct about this and you've been repeatedly corrected in the past.

271 posted on 04/15/2011 8:54:58 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Grumplestiltskin
"I believe more than just that is required to fully conform to what a “natural born citizen” is, as being Constitutionally required to become president."

I understand. The birthers have pushed this notion hard and you'll find it repeated over and over on FR as if it were a fact. But it's not. It's a complete myth.

If you were born in the US you gained your citizenship naturally by birth, regardless of any parental standing. That's the way it's always been in the US, and the way it was in England before that.

272 posted on 04/15/2011 8:57:23 AM PDT by mlo
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To: rbg81

All those people who voted for George HW “Read My Lips” Bush in 1992? If they’d have voted for Perot Clinton wouldn’t have one.


273 posted on 04/15/2011 2:35:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: Terry Mross

I actually DID vote for Perot, and it was the one vote I regret. Not that Bush I was so great (he wasn’t), but that it opened the door for Der Schlickmeister. Afterwards, I’ve always voted Republican even when I had to hold my nose to do so (as was the case for Dole and McCain).


274 posted on 04/15/2011 2:59:56 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

RACIST!!!


275 posted on 04/15/2011 11:16:42 PM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: Sprite518

The Milton Friedman cult of Free Trade needs to get a freakin’ grip. I’ll take Marty Friedman... they can keep Milton.


276 posted on 04/15/2011 11:40:49 PM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: RockinRight

That’s because Fred was only in the race to split the vote for his pal John. And you think Trump supporters are being played?


277 posted on 04/15/2011 11:42:15 PM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: RockinRight

Oops, I think I may have misstated your position, either I got you confused with another poster or you contradicted yourself in a post or two. My bad.


278 posted on 04/15/2011 11:52:04 PM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: Jim 0216

Maybe we shouldn’t pay any taxes. You could stretch the argument to where any form of taxation is “socialism”.


279 posted on 04/15/2011 11:54:51 PM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: mlo; meadsjn

I don’t know which of you is right or wrong but meadsjn just layed out a strong case while you just repeated your own assertion.


280 posted on 04/15/2011 11:58:54 PM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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