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The phantom frigate
DoD Buzz ^ | April 13th, 2011 | Philip Ewing

Posted on 04/14/2011 8:43:19 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

The phantom frigate

By Philip Ewing Wednesday, April 13th, 2011

Huntington Ingalls Industries may now be a separate company from its former parent Northrop Grumman, but some things never change: This week, as it has for years, exhibitors used their booth at the Sea Air Space trade show to promote a concept that the new company officials still hope could be a big new moneymaker for the Ingalls yard in Pascagoula, Miss.: A badass naval version of the comparatively tame National Security Cutter now in use with the Coast Guard.

The concept used to be called the “National Patrol Frigate,” but now HII is just calling it “the Patrol Frigate” — hear that, international customers? — and unlike the Coast Guard’s production version, this thing would be armed to the teeth. In addition to the main gun forward (possibly the same 57mm gun on the Coast Guard’s ships and Navy’s littoral combat ships, but not necessarily) it could have vertical launch cell for missiles, Harpoon missiles on the faintail, and even a SeaRAM launcher on the deckhouse above the helo hangars. The ship would even carry an Aegis SPY-1F radar on its main mast. All this hardware would make one of these things practically a pocket battleship, in today’s terms, given the 4,500-ton National Security Cutter hull.

There’s only one problem: No one seems to want to buy them. The Coasties love their ships as-is, and they don’t need or want all those expensive weapons. Both the Navy’s models of LCS are far from perfect, but the brass loves them and doesn’t want to hear about the National Security Cutter design. So what navy could possibly want a ship that required all those costly missile reloads — especially SeaRAM? Good question.

(For the record, HII’s model builders put a tiny paper American flag on the model they displayed this week at Sea Air Space — maybe they hope tomorrow’s American admirals will come around after all.)

Read more: http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/04/13/the-phantom-frigate/#ixzz1JYjltYmU


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: frigate; huntingtoningalls; lcs; uscg

1 posted on 04/14/2011 8:43:25 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Drop the LCS and buy 200 of these.


2 posted on 04/14/2011 9:48:44 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner
Put a small, 12-tube Concentric Canister Launcher System (follow-on to the MK 41 VLS) with the newest version of the SM-2, Sea Sparrow and Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles on this thing...tied into the Battle Group Aegis fire control and radar...and you have one formidable little frigate.

4,500 tons is the perfect size for the new generation of very, very effective sea control ships.

Add 100 of the newest air-breathing subs in the 2,500 ton class and you have an unbeatable navy.

Of course, we'd have to preserve the major combatants we have in place now for that to be true.

3 posted on 04/14/2011 10:05:45 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner
Place an order for 100 ships as described above and you would likely buy them for $250mil a piece.

It's likely the crew would be around 70 men with modern systems...30 knots...4,000 nautical mile range without refueling.

A perfect platform for dozens of different roles.

4 posted on 04/14/2011 10:11:53 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

The question is only: do you want an unbeatable navy in the hands of Kaliph Obama?


5 posted on 04/15/2011 1:00:55 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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