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To: traditional1

Check it out :

“The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a NATIVE citizen of the United States of America.”

http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

Now this:

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution.

” NO person except a NATURAL born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. “

The article says “...Natural born...” and then “... ,or a citizen of the United States, ...”

Commas separate ideas and the USSC and never ruled on the issue.


7 posted on 04/16/2011 9:30:37 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
. . . at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution . .

Reckon that effectively rules out anyone and everyone from holding the office. Who among us is over 200 years old?

12 posted on 04/16/2011 9:47:03 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: Para-Ord.45

NO person except a NATURAL born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...............................................................It is quite evident the statement above refers to a citizen of the US at the time of adoption of the constitution. Back in that time period there were many citizens that were not natural born.That would have allowed maybe only one or two generations to be eligible for president without being natural bornm. It is quite clear to me, why is it confusing to you?


20 posted on 04/16/2011 10:32:58 AM PDT by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Para-Ord.45
"The article says “...Natural born...” and then “... ,or a citizen of the United States, ...”

Tortured reading on YOUR part, for sure, as the "OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, at the time of the Signing"...

The Messiah was not around at the time of the signing, when the "Citizen of the United States at the time of the signing" would apply.

On the second issue, Natural Born; Case Law has generally been applied whereas BOTH parents MUST BE U.S. Citizens at the time of the birth, AND, it has to occur on U.S. Soil.

26 posted on 04/16/2011 12:26:29 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

My goodness, it sounds as if you’ve never been exposed to the Constitutional “granfather clause” that allowed the original citizens of the new nation to be eligible for the Presidency. It’s not as if any natural born ones would be eligible for, oh, 35 years or so. Since commas separate ideas, maybe you should continue on past the one at which you cut off the cite, to get to the gist of the matter.


31 posted on 04/17/2011 4:36:30 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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