Posted on 04/18/2011 1:59:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Yet Rand is hardly the bitterest foe of traditional Christian principles to be found among atheists.
She was wrong, of course, that God destroys reason. God gives reason a place to begin. God furnishes the objective foundation for which she hankers, but without the need for relativistic arguments to support it.
I am a born again Christian. I am a pro Constitution conservative politically.
I saw Atlas Shrugged Saturday - and I was fully able to take the message of a totalitarian government and what it does to the incentive to create products and services that make the world a better place and separate that from Rand’s beliefs on eternity - which she surely regrets now herself.
The main message of Atlas Shrugged is a brilliant and important one. I don’t care what Rand’s other beliefs were. I’m an adult. I can filter them out. If the Apostle Paul was able to debate nonbelievers on their terms, then believers can take Rand on hers.
You can't debate Rand now. She's gone to meet her Maker.
But there's certainly no shortage of her acolytes to debate, sadly.
Objectivism and its spawn are a moral cancer on the American body politic.
And it's uncertain whether the patient will survive.
Poison is poison, my friend. No matter what bottle it comes in.
Absolutely.
Of all the influences that modern foes of religion in the public square claim, I’ve scarcely ever heard Rand explicitly cited. Much more often it traces to pop psychology (Freud) or an evolutionist point of view (Darwin). Some “epidemiology” is in order if we are to claim Rand is a “cancer on the body politic.” She seems scarcely a wart.
‘I don’t care what Rand’s other beliefs were. I’m an adult. I can filter them out’
YOU ARE RIGHT MR WRIGHT....DISCERNING ADULTS CAN SELECT OUT THE THRUST OF ANN’S BRILLIANT WORKS...REJECTING SOME LIVING BY THE REST....
PSST....don’t get your undies in a bunch LITTLE TOMMY...we’re not liberals here we can handle things.....now quit preachin and go stick yer head in the mud? ty and have a nice day..
“Objectivism and its spawn are a moral cancer on the American body politic.”
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Christians who want to redistribute wealth and acquire government power to advance their religious beliefs at the expense of others are a moral cancer on the American body politic too.
They are not conservatives...and their motives are every bit as selfish as those they throw stones at. Whether it is a Marxist “for the children/village” or a Christian “for Jesus,” using the government to rob Peter to give to Paul is still looting by second-handers.
Don’t recall “Render unto Caesar” ending with “so Christians can redistribute tax dollars while claiming to do God’s will.” Perhaps that’s in Mike Hucksterbee’s version of the Bible.
Poison is poison, no matter the bottle — I agree with that. There was simply no poison (to speak of) in the film version of Atlas Shrugged Part 1.
So Rand has some poisonous beliefs. Fine. Paying 10 bucks to watch the movie is not an endorsement of every single belief she had. 98% of the message of Atlas Shrugged is a great lesson on totalitarian government and how it evolves.
Why any Christian would strongly object to this movie is just beyond me.
LOL! Yes that mighty force in American politics is bringing this country low!
That made way too much sense.
Thank you. I would argue that they are a much bigger scourge on the body politic than the Objectivist boogieman.
Look closely at those who swoon most deep and sincere at the feet of a tyrant, they wear Christ like a poor shirt.
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They are not conservatives...
They also got Christianity wrong as well: 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15
In many respects, allowing for people to achieve their own selfish ends is what enables them to help the less fortunate. I would imagine that many people in this country refuse to be charitable since they know that their tax money is already siphoned off to fill the pockets of those who obtain government assistance.
Exactly why I'll never vote for Huckabee.
There are a number of crypto-marxists out there who Nietzsche described as "underhanded Christians" that use the Bible for their own selfish purposes...
There is a gaping 50mm hole in Ayn Rand's philosophy though...
Morality and any associated ideal is rooted entirely in a presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.
They are not Christians if they have the views you ascribe to them, above. They may call themselves Christians; they are not following the tenets that Christ taught.
Evolutionary theory actually supports Genesis...
Mammalian evolution is only possible with heterosexual relationships.
The so-called "atheists" out there will run away from this logic... Creationists have a puzzling disconnect to the obvious evidence of it in nature...
Neither side will admit nature has it's own laws, and like the Declaration of Independence, it is a manifestation of the Law given to Moses...
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