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Posted on 04/18/2011 9:22:34 AM PDT by GonzoII
Go on the threads where pro-life people go on and on about killing granny when the discussion of curtailing Medicare comes up.
That's EXACTLY what the Tea Party did when they got behind Scott Brown in early 2010.
They said it didn't matter that he was pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and everything else. They said that he was a "fiscal conservative" and that's all that was important.
How did that one work out for you?
That ain’t us.
Would it have been better to have lost the election in Mass with an unsuitable for that electorate rock ribbed conservative?
The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are pro life and pro liberty documents.
The Tea Party is making a huge mistake if they try to purge social issues from their agenda.
It worked well. We got the most conservative Senator we could hope for elected in MA.
Well said. Looks like the Tea Party is fronting for the money crowd. I vote pro-life and that may be a third party.
How the worm turns. I’m pro-life. I’ve tried to register people to vote at pro-life events. I’ve tried to mention pro-life candidates in pro-life chat rooms. The guardians of many pro-life activities are extremely vigilant to anything they deem irrelevant to their single focus.
The Tea Party is clearly about economics and not social issues. Obviously there is some overlap as in taxpayer funding of PP.
Hopefully, the purist pro-life exclusionists will come to their senses and realize they could be more effective participating in coalitions and supporting others in the coalition.
And it isn’t just pro-lifers. The reality is that no single issue group on our side can win. The only way we can win is to get ourselves dirty by associating with others who have their priorities backwards (in our opinion).
This is a serious problem that is trivialized by far too many people, as far as I’m concerned.
Listening to Neal Boortz rant on about the whacked-out pro-life “zealots,” with the way he snears, is really disgusting, and when he starts his screeds, I switch him off.
The problem is that abortion IS the “slavery issue” of modern times. I’m not saying that abortion is slavery, but that there are many parallels in the debate between pro and anti life proponents and the abolitionists vs the slavery supporters.
As far as the abolitionists were concerned, slavery was evil because the slaves were full, individual human beings. The slavery supporters didn’t feel that way.
Abortion opponents see abortion as the needless and heartless taking of a human life (murder being the illegal taking of life, and whether you like it or not, it is legal at this time). Abortion supporters disagree.
Just like with slavery, I just don’t see any way that the two sides will ever be able to agree. Hopefully it won’t come to fighting a war over it.
Mark
Oh....you must be talking about the social(ist) conservative...
Actually, so far it’s worked out OK, not great but considering the alternative - a lefty democrat - I’m happy with the outcome and at least an opportunity for ‘right’ votes in the future, plus anyone right of Brown wouldn’t have had a chance in that state.
It’s conservatives like you that will not compromise anything that end up with nothing. Wake up, look around - 1/2 of voters are not going to vote for a pure conservative candidate in most states and nationally.
Is it a tax free organization?
A rowdy band of radicals?
Perhaps the politics of America has been SO co-opted, anything is taken from the original and manipulated against itself?
One thing is certain ... those of us that just happen to fit within a "tea party" stereotype, don't necesarrily belong to a "tea party".
Rather, we assemble to hear speakers and communicate with each other.
Pro-life happens to be a plank in the platform of everyone I've ever met at a "tea party" assembly
Thus, expect the "Tea Party" to become another phrase/title that clouds the mature attempt to stop the runaway government.
Just as an expalnation of my thinking ...
I understand the original Boston Tea Party to be a bunch of guys that, IMO, were not necesarrily educated or politically astute but were a bunch of pissed of Bostonians that decided to send a message to King George, which basically said, "FU and your tea"
I think today they would probably be labeled anarchists.
“You can’t be a fiscal Conservative and not be a social Conservative. A large part of the expanse of government is to make up for a dysfunctional society, because our culture is falling apart, the family is falling apart.” Jim DeMint
You can't be a fiscal Conservative and be a social liberal. How do you reconcile a desire to have government solve the world's problems without advocating for the programs to do it?!
Technically every issue that affects you personally is a social issue as we are all part of society. Our families are part of society. Taxes affect people who make up society. They pay for things the government wants to spend on, and that affects society.
You really can’t compartmentalize, all issues affect people and they all have morals of some kind behind them (good or bad) and they are all ‘social’ issues as tehy impact individuals and groups within society.
We have to stop rejecting this LIBERAL idea of compartmentalizing issues. That’s how you wind up in liberal pretzel logic.
I don’t think being pro-life makes me a social liberal.
Fiscally conservative and Social liberal is just a budget conscious liberal.
What’s great about that? Anyone?
Not killing babies doesn’t mean nanny state. Why do you piggyback entitlements with not killing babies?
Are you stupid or just lying?
Yeah, just liberals who don’t want to pay high taxes. Or to put it another way, liberals who aren’t on welfare.
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