Posted on 04/19/2011 7:00:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
If you had real evidence that he was born there, it would override other considerations.
But in the absence of any hard evidence, there's nothing amiss in pointing out that travel to Africa was not as easy or as common as it is today.
While such a trip would have been physically possible, it would be irresponsible to leave the impression that could have been undertaken as easily as it would today.
We already know Annie was in Kenya at the time of the birth.
What is the evidence for that?
Place of birth also is a disqualification.
hey troll................Wondering how long you will last until you get the zot. Since you suck and from your posts I guess you are what, 15-16 years old, won’t be too long.
Frank Marshall Davis had plenty of money and apparently Barry Soetoro’s grandparents could afford to send him to a private school. I think they could muster up the funds for a plane ticket. Besides how do you know it was a plane? Could have been a ship.
Sniff, sniff.....Slider, you stink.
So, if that is true, why would Barrack Obama's paternal grandparents bother going to Hawaii right after she had visited? That is what would have had to happen since Sarah Obama adamantly has said she was in the hospital when Barrack was born if she wasn't referring to a hospital in Kenya when she made the claim.
Barrack's paternal grandfather was poor and disabled. How would he and his wife paid for a trip to Hawaii? Why would they bother spending the money to go to Hawaii to see their third grandchild born?
So, you believe that Barrack's parental grandfather, who was poor and disabled at the time, along with his step grandmother shelled out the money for two people to take a trip to Hawaii to see their third grandchild born?
Sarah Obama said she was at the hospital at the time of his birth. So, that is what would have had to happen if she meant a hospital in Hawaii.
Definitely and a real dumb one... days are numbered, probably 15-16 years old, that’s my guess after reading past posts.
I studied Russian, in high school, in the 60’s My grandparents were from the Ukraine so I thought it would be a great language to learn. It was extremely difficult because you have to learn a new alphabet first. Never did become at all proficient.
As I recall, the time frame here was very short for a Semester. Something like late May until Aug 1. Obama Sr. could have signed up and and withdrew from class. And as I recall, there was no info released that he actually attended classes during this time frame.
Damn, Don! If you had spent as much time exploring the aspects of natural born citizenship you might have an article worth reading.
Active link-shows some of the other pages:
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/its-a-date
Trump suggested calling them “proofers”. I like that better than “birthers”.
“It is at this point that we lose track of the President’s mother. She is not enrolled at the University of Hawaii [after Fall quarter 1960]. No one sees her (with the possible exception of self appointed best friend Neil Abercrombie, current Governor of Hawaii), and no one can vouch for her whereabouts.”
They don’t see her because she’s not there. She’s age 18, gets pregnant out of wedlock by a UK national of African race in Hawaii, it’s 1961.... how do you think the parents felt? She’s estranged from parents, in addition, Obama Sr. was already married. Crime of bigamy in Hawaii; therefore both left Xmas vacation btwn quarters, most likely married in Kenya with Stanley Ann living in Kenya and Obama Sr. returning to classes at Univ of Hawaii Spring 1961 as his transcript shows.
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/MissieBessie/barackobamatranscript-1.jpg
“Obama Sr. had no money. He certainly wouldn’t have had the money for two airplane tickets to Kenya. If that trip took place, Ann’s parents would have to have paid the fare.”
BOAC British Overseas Airways Corporation, allowed students, missionary and military to fly free or at reduced rates if flights weren’t full.
“The distance between Honolulu and Nairobi, Kenya is approximately 10,700 miles. In 1961 there would not have been any direct flights, necessitating several stops and perhaps several overnight layovers.”
Stanley Ann didn’t return to Hawaii, she returned to old stomping grounds Mercer Island, Washington. Routes at the time: Nairobi - Glascow - Vancouver.
“...18 year-old first time mother, days away from delivery, leaving the comfort and surroundings of her parents’ home (with the blessing of her parents), to embark on a several day exhausting journey, only to arrive in a very third world country to deliver her baby in the primitive medical facilities common in the Africa of 1961.”
She’s already in Kenya estranged from parents. Two missionaries witnessed a distressed white girl named Stanley who was denied boarding a plane for return trip because of her late pregnant condition. Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa had trained staff British Colonial Service.
And Stanley Ann would often leave the comfort and surroundings of her parent’s home, by living in Mercer Island attending Washington University alone away from parents, and years later, the independant woman would again repeat her previous behavior — marry a foreigner, and go live abroad in another third world developing country, have another child, Maya.
Running off to a foreign country, while seemingly rare to those who live stagnant existence, is actually commonplace for a certain crowd, and holds adventure and romanticism to those who have lived abroad and met similar people in their travels. There are married women traveling alone in Europe, there are people that run off abroad all the time. Doesn’t always make sense, but it most assuredly does happen.
What doesn’t make sense is how the media potrays Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann as a couple when they never lived together and were separated clearly early on. And then Stanley is alone back at her old childhood place at Mercer Island shortly after giving birth. Whether or not Zero is with her is unknown. Perhaps he was with step-Granny Sarah for a short time, who Zero is close with to this day.
There is also no account of where Stanley Ann was after leaving Univ of Washington Spring 1962 until starting back at Univ of Hawaii Spring 1963.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/stevesharp2918/DunhamUnivofHawaiiFOIA.jpg
Can be skewed around as “poofers” another pejorative.
UN Nutrition Goodwill Ambassador Mama Sarah Obama 87, receives a honorary Doctor of Letters Degree from Vice Chancellor Prof Dan Kaseje (left) during the fourth graduation ceremony of the university at Tom Mboya Labour college in Kisumu. She became Dr Sarah Hussein Obama after the honour.
By NATION Correspondent
Posted Tuesday, May 4 2010 at 21:00
Obamas grandmother throws party
A day after being awarded an honorary doctorate by a local university US President Barrack Obamas grandmother hosted a party at her Kogelo home in Siaya on Tuesday.
Two bulls, three sheep and four goats were slaughtered for the many visitors who trooped to the home to congratulate the 88-year-old grandmother for the honour.
Mama Sarah Obama was awarded a honorary Doctor of Letters by the Great Lakes University of Kisumu on Monday for her role in helping widows and orphans at her Kogelo village.
A similar feast had been organised after Mr Obama ascended to the White House.
The day is now marked with cultural activities annually.
Mama Sarah appealed to the public to dedicate their time and effort to ensuring that they take care of orphans and the vulnerable people in the society.
This is a show of blessing from God, since I have always dedicated my time to tend to the orphans. Even the US president passed through my hands, added the grandmother.
Siaya DC Boaz Cherutich accompanied Mama Sarah from Kisumu to Kogelo for the celebrations.
The Obama Kogelo community chairman Mr Vitalis Aketch Ogombe hailed Mama Sarahs efforts in helping orphans.
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