[Will88]

“Honestly, Karl Rove ought to go back and start thinking about other things because what he did is, he gave us, indirectly through President Bush, he gave us Barack Obama,”

100% true, and Fox News should not be giving the political operative Rove a platform from which to spew his manipulations and distortions daily, tearing down candidates he doesn't like and building up the Beltway elite approved candidates he does like.

And Rove is "The Architect" all right, the architect of the biggest nose dive in Republican fortunes in living memory, moving the party from one of its strongest positions ever after the 2004 election to one of its weakest ever after the 2008 election. W's second term was a disaster and "The Architect" gets prime 'credit'.

[dragnet2]

And Rove is "The Architect" all right, the architect of the biggest nose dive in Republican fortunes in living memory, moving the party from one of its strongest positions ever after the 2004 election to one of its weakest ever after the 2008 election.

Yup...It was under the Bush administration when I realized the differences between the Republican and Democrats were inconsequential.

We were betrayed.

The only dopes they roped were the American people.