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The Psychology of the 'Birther' Myth (Free NYT psychoanalysis! Flack over the target)
New York Times ^ | April 22, 2011 | Seven NYT anti-birther "debaters"

Posted on 04/22/2011 10:16:29 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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Obama coddling media are REALLY worried now. The NY Times has gone from ignoring the issue to full blown counter propaganda centered on "debunked" Factcheck, of course!
1 posted on 04/22/2011 10:16:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
despite all factual evidence

What evidence???? Ex cathedra assertions by Obama worshipping media types don't count as "evidence."

2 posted on 04/22/2011 10:19:04 AM PDT by Lysandru
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Then there should be no problem with legislation requiring proof of eligibility — seeing how it's a myth and everything.
3 posted on 04/22/2011 10:19:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Seizethecarp

Every day is like April first for these idiots!


4 posted on 04/22/2011 10:20:08 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: Seizethecarp

Race card played again! Shocker.

Was is ‘racist’ when McCain had to produce his BC? Trump did a couple of weeks ago after MSM outcry. Racist?

Isn’t it actually racist to hold a (half) black person to a LOWER standard than that of other candidates?

Do we have Affirmative Action standards for the Constitution? Is this commentator suggesting “No person shall...” doesn’t cover Obama because of his race?

Does show there are two standards: one for conservatives who must play by the rules and one for liberals who aren’t held to the same level of scrutiny.

Where are the Watergate/Pulitzer Price winner-types on this issue? Will it take THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER to get to the facts like the Edwards scandal?


5 posted on 04/22/2011 10:23:21 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Seizethecarp
despite all factual evidence.

What factual evidence??? I've never seen anything "factual" to dispute his birthplace or his TRUE citizenship (and that of both of his parents).

Not to mention ALL of the other documents that have been hidden in secrecy.

These numbskull anti-constitutionalists, just focus on the Birth Certificate issue...and completely neglect ALL of the other documents. Why are they ALL hidden???? Answer that "factually" you dolts.
6 posted on 04/22/2011 10:24:08 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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“why is it so hard to dispel?”

You must be kidding me.

BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT SHOWING A SIMPLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.


7 posted on 04/22/2011 10:24:19 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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I figured the Liberal Media would be panicking now

Sad is that so-called conservatives are siding with Liberal Media on the Obama Eligibility issue.

I expect the NYT to call me a “kook” or a “crazy”.....not someone claiming to be a conservative doing so

I Am Birther


8 posted on 04/22/2011 10:24:32 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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What drives this kind of false political belief and why is it so hard to dispel?

If it is false then it would already have been dispeled.

9 posted on 04/22/2011 10:26:09 AM PDT by cotton
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Where was the psychoanalysis of “truthers” like Van Jones?

How is an accusation the U.S. government was involved in murdering over 2,000 Americans on our home soil “reasonable political discussion” and Granny Dunham stopping by the local DOH office a “conspiracy theory”?

To this day Hawaii allows for those children of residents born outside the state to receive valid BCs. That’s why we need to see the long form.

The internet has been the game changer. MSM no longer has the monopoly.


10 posted on 04/22/2011 10:28:04 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Seizethecarp
despite all factual evidence

Except that one piece that would put the entire controversy to rest.

11 posted on 04/22/2011 10:29:32 AM PDT by mojito
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What drives this kind of false political belief and why is it so hard to dispel?

Whom at the NYT has VERIFIED the facts to date?? Or do they just take Obama’s puppet’s words as gospel and out of hand.

Where is the F’n Birth Certificate?, Where are the college transcripts?, Where is an unbroken line of evidence as to where he was born and where he went, and when he changed citizenship, and legal name changes??? WHERE????


12 posted on 04/22/2011 10:30:25 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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So what does this say about the Democrats who started this whole thing about McCain or started and still champion the Obama Birther movement (::cough::Phil Berg::cough::)

This was originally a Democrat started issue.


13 posted on 04/22/2011 10:31:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The COLB on the net was never introduced into a court of law. It has never been independently examined by an expert in forensic evidence.

A simple google search shows the Nordyke twins have their long for BCs with doctor signature and hospital listed. Hawaii says ... SAYS .. this form exists for Obama as well. But they can’t take it to a copy machine and Obama can’t let reporters take photos of it in the ‘bound’ volume where it sits.

Saw last night that the left is trying to organize a Trump boycott. Seinfeld was first. Next will be sponsors of Trump’s TV show. Then his renters. Etc. Typical leftist tactics.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 10:31:30 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Seizethecarp

I am not a birther, but I believe every state should have a law that certifies every presidential candidate as being qualified under the provisions of the US Constitution before placed on the ballot.

In fact, I think every Elector in the Electoral College should be given the evidence before they vote, and Congress be given the evidence before certifying the election.

Why these “birther” laws are even controversial I will never understand.


15 posted on 04/22/2011 10:32:27 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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Good point. Hillary is the birther of the birther movement. I guess she’s a racist as well. And I thought she was the first black First Lady!


16 posted on 04/22/2011 10:33:04 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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Hawaii state officials have repeatedly cryptically, coyly, winkingly, noddingly, slyly, abashedly, abbreviatedly confirmed President Obama's birth in Honolulu

That phrase needed a little fixing...

17 posted on 04/22/2011 10:35:11 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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NY Times has gone from ignoring the issue to full blown counter propaganda

The NYT is no longer a newspaper, as that word was once understood. They function as the public relations department of the WH, and there is no service they will not render. I would guess that the "idea" for this story either originated in the WH, or with NYT editors who then ran it past WH officials to make sure they were on board with it.

18 posted on 04/22/2011 10:36:51 AM PDT by mojito
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>>> I am not a birther, but I believe every state should have a law that certifies every presidential candidate as being qualified under the provisions of the US Constitution before placed on the ballot.

This makes you a birther...

Just so you know.


19 posted on 04/22/2011 10:39:32 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Seizethecarp

“Alternatively, he can refuse to grant these doubts the legitimacy of a response. This strategy could harm his political adversaries by enabling the so-called birthers to capture increasing proportions of Republican primary voters and in the process repel centrist voters.”

Interesting analysis.

And Donald Trump fits into that quite nicely.


20 posted on 04/22/2011 10:47:21 AM PDT by trumandogz
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