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Marines' ‘Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal training revealed
The Orange County Register ^ | April 22, 2011 | BRITTANY LEVINE

Posted on 04/23/2011 9:16:09 AM PDT by Robert Lomax

Getting straight to the point, male-on-male kissing is the first scenario Marines are discussing at Camp Pendleton as they learn about the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and what it means for them.

Marines may also have to get used to living with an openly gay service member, recruiters could be punished for barring enlistees that talk about being gay and early discharges may not be granted for those that disagree with the repeal, according to training materials released this month by the Marine Corps.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dadt; gay; homosexualagenda; marinecorps; marines
If they are going to make it fair, then heterosexual males and heterosexual females should be forced to shower together.
1 posted on 04/23/2011 9:16:13 AM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: Robert Lomax

One should treat sexual perversion institutionaly, professionally. It must be outlawed and not embraced as a normal lifestyle. This type of thing is not what the human body, mind and spirit were meant to do.


2 posted on 04/23/2011 9:20:17 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: Robert Lomax

will this just blow over?

Unlikely...


3 posted on 04/23/2011 9:21:11 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Robert Lomax

New recruiting video..... Looking for A few good queers.


4 posted on 04/23/2011 9:25:06 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Robert Lomax

what’s going to happen if some Marine in the heat of combat yells,”shoot the cokk$ucker!!.”????
that’ll be confusing


5 posted on 04/23/2011 9:26:40 AM PDT by parabellum (cartman says,"hippies hate death metal.play some and they go away.")
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To: Robert Lomax
Congratulations, America, on your "historic" election of President Ubama.


6 posted on 04/23/2011 9:27:12 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Robert Lomax

Could someone explain the rational for women get separate bathrooms, showers, and sleeping quarters from men?

I mean these are adults, we can certainly trust them to act like adults. This idea that somehow men will want to have sex with every naked woman they see in a shower is a canard. If someone does get out of line, they will be disciplined. Soon everyone will get the message that inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated.

Creating separate facilities for women will only make them feel stigmatized. So coed showers for all!

/sarcasm


7 posted on 04/23/2011 9:27:37 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: parabellum

No it won’t.


8 posted on 04/23/2011 9:27:47 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Robert Lomax

The JAG office is going to be taken over by fags, so good luck in taking any complaints about gay behavior to them.


9 posted on 04/23/2011 9:29:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Robert Lomax

from my experience, homos are sneaky, slimy, duplicitous scum. With repeal of DADT, they lose the need to be sneaky, and the “get out of jail free” card. hopefully, fewer homos will enlist, since they’ll actually have to stay in for the full time, and can’t eject whenever they please.


10 posted on 04/23/2011 9:31:17 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Robert Lomax
Marines won't be expected to change religious or moral beliefs and can express those feelings, according to a training script.

So when a homosexual goes in for counseling and the chaplain explains to him that his "sexual orientation" is an abomination to God ... what happens to the chaplain?? Obviously the chaplain is not "celebrating" the homo-diversity!

11 posted on 04/23/2011 9:35:37 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Robert Lomax
Looks like once again, the Marines are taking the lead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rCrG6TzG-nw

Don't say you weren't warned.
12 posted on 04/23/2011 9:36:18 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-eyed killer of the deep.)
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To: Robert Lomax

The Ballad of the Green Berets has been replaced by the Ballad of the Raspberry Berets.


13 posted on 04/23/2011 9:39:06 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: dfwgator

Really, Gator?

Colonel, USAFR
JAG


14 posted on 04/23/2011 9:39:20 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: jagusafr

You don’t think that once a few gays into positions of power there, they will only start hiring their own? We’ve seen this happen in many other organizations, why would they be any different?


15 posted on 04/23/2011 9:42:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

look out they are meaner than all get out


16 posted on 04/23/2011 9:45:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Robert Lomax

Training video — Tips for after DADT: a) Do NOT drop the soap. b) Always sleep with one eye open c)Do NOT trust the guy who says he’ll “watch your back”


17 posted on 04/23/2011 9:48:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Robert Lomax

My wife was in show business and I’ve gotten to know a few male homosexuals. The irony I’ve found is that the better I got to know them, the less I liked them.
If you ever watched the sit-com `Will and Grace’ it is like the difference between Will and Jack. I could get along with Will but not Jack. The more comfortable a `Jack’ becomes with you, the less inhibited he feels and then starts the mincing and ‘flaming.’
So it’s not `fear’ or prejudice on my part, and I suspect on the parts of heterosexual soldiers, so much as the experience causing the reaction: `Get the h*** away from me.’

Here’s an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Bm-W4mqqY&NR=1

Less than two years and (hopefully) we can go back to the way our armed forces were and should be.


18 posted on 04/23/2011 9:56:17 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Robert Lomax
From the article...

...9/11 and two wars taught us that we cannot remain divided when our opponents want to see all of us dead-- gay or straight.

There you have it. We have love homosexuals or we will lose to our enemies. Has to be the weirdest defense of being forced to accept perversion I have ever seen

19 posted on 04/23/2011 9:59:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Robert Lomax

Parris Island DI’s are going to be instructed on how to demostrate the ‘reach-around’.


20 posted on 04/23/2011 10:04:46 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Robert Lomax

What this accomplishes is to make homosexuality a capital offense in the military. And like everything, there will be a military protocol about the homicide. Here are some of the unofficial rules:

1) Military personnel must have tangible evidence that a service member is a homosexual, not just rumor or innuendo, before they kill them.

2) A peer of the suspect should be advised that there is a rumor that the suspect is a homosexual, as fair warning that the homosexual’s life may be in danger because of this rumor. This will give a heterosexual more than adequate time for rebuttal; and a homosexual time to transfer out of that unit.

3) When a homosexual is killed there will be another, “official” motive for their death, to protect the unit from recrimination and mass punishment. Thus there will be no evidence on scene that the homosexual was killed for reasons of his sexuality.

4) All homicides, fatal accidents, and suicides will be done in a military, not civilian, jurisdiction, so that the military will retain control of the investigation, as well as disposition of the murderer, if captured. These events will be conducted “with safety in mind”, so that no one else other than the homosexual is injured or killed by accident.

5) If captured, punishment of the murderer will be based on motive, with significantly less punishment if the motive is “mundane”, such as robbery. There will be no difference in punishment for a guilty or a non-guilty plea, so acquittal remains a real possibility.


21 posted on 04/23/2011 10:19:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: King Moonracer
and can’t eject whenever they please

That's disgusting. I've half a mind to hit the abuse button. /s

22 posted on 04/23/2011 10:26:22 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: gunnyg

The res-ident want it to justify and validate his perverted life style. I would think there will be some “accidents” and no witnesses.


23 posted on 04/23/2011 10:35:40 AM PDT by mcshot (The GREATEST GENERATION would not tolerate this bastardization of our Republic.)
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To: Robert Lomax
The queers are winning (from the article):
GAY PEOPLE 'NOTHING NEW'

Dan Choi, who was discharged from the Army National Guard in July after he came out on national television, said implementation will come down to leadership and that some may find the training condescending since "gay people are nothing new."

The Rand study estimated that five percent of the military's male population is gay and 10 percent of the female population is lesbian.

"The bulk of the education has happened already: our troops belong to the generation comfortable with 'Will and Grace', Ellen (Degeneres) and gay families," said the Tustin High School graduate in an email. "Not only that, but 9/11 and two wars taught us that we cannot remain divided when our opponents want to see all of us dead-- gay or straight."

That is straight out of The Overhauling of Straight America^, first published in 1987:
The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preference the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games: she likes strawberry and I like vanilla; he follows baseball and I follow football. No big deal.

At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full "appreciation" or "understanding" of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing, with a shrug of their shoulders, then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won.

Have you shrugged your shoulders lately?

The queers and fagots actively and willingly encourage a lifestyle that is twisted and perverted. They cleverly promote behavior that is diametrically opposed to the Judeo-Christian principles upon which our nation was founded. Their promiscuous behavior spreads incurable diseases and causes agonizing death. Let's not lend credence to a bunch of perverts seeking to hijack this country's moral foundation.

Make no mistake about this... although they comprise, at most, just 3% of our population, they are one of Satan's most powerful and influential forces.

24 posted on 04/23/2011 10:40:18 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Robert Lomax

This should do wonders for reenlistment.


25 posted on 04/23/2011 10:48:27 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Robert Lomax

frag


26 posted on 04/23/2011 11:06:46 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: AU72

“Marines...DO NOT..leave their buddies behind.” Used to be a funny double entendre.

Now not so much.


27 posted on 04/23/2011 11:08:08 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: AU72

On command “one ready one” you WILL...

“Ready... ONE”!


28 posted on 04/23/2011 11:26:04 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Robert Lomax

I just don’t get why the gays seem to feel like they have to talk about what they do so much? I guess as straight people we should learn to do the same thing back to them so they know how it feels.


29 posted on 04/23/2011 11:51:31 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: upchuck

The quote from 1987 explains what happened perfectly. It is exactly what the Democrats said they were going to do, and they did. I remember other quotes when the first homosexual television programs began. A TV producer said something like “We’ll convince them homosexual is moral the same way they were convinced it is wrong: repetition.” And the Tustin High School student (quoted above) even admits that and realizes it. The younger generation grew up with television approving homosexuality, so they approve it. Those who control television control America.


30 posted on 04/23/2011 3:26:58 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: jpsb
This should do wonders for reenlistment.

And now you've discovered the dirty little secret. This is how they plan to destroy the all-volunteer military, since it tends to be the patriotic conservative that volunteers for the military. They can't have that. Their goal is to transform the military into yet another social program, and to do that, they have to discourage conservatives from joining.

31 posted on 04/23/2011 3:31:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I understand the thought process, but the selection process for JAGs makes it very difficult for one or two people to have any real impact on the selection of any individual.

And believe me, it makes me sick every time I see another “here’s now we make it easy” message.

Colonel, USAFR


32 posted on 04/23/2011 5:09:19 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If you oppose homosexuality, the terrorists have won! /s


33 posted on 04/23/2011 5:14:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: upchuck

Interesting. Although I am not as sensitive about homosexuality, I am nonetheless compelled to post the following:

Current Communist Goals (1963)

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

Sounds like they’re well along with this one.

The Communist Soviets punished homosexuals, by the way, in seeming contradiction to this goal. I think that this goal was/is simply a device by which to undermine the bourgeois, exploitative, capitalist society drugged out on religion (their view, IMO).


34 posted on 04/23/2011 5:21:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: Robert Lomax

Pingout tomorrow.


35 posted on 04/23/2011 8:52:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mcshot
"I would think there will be some “accidents” and no witnesses."

It has happened before and is happening now. As a vet who has family currently in the military I can assure you the flagrantly gay and any who dare touch, even in a friendly non sexual way such as a pat on the shoulder or back will receive a warning from the e.m. and after that a "midnight counseling session" will be arranged. There will be no witnesses to support the gays complaint should he even dare to make one and the result if he does make one will be further "counseling". The repeal of DAGT contrary to what the left and many here believe will NOT make for gays being able to openly display their aberrant behavior but will have quite the opposite effect. They will be more openly but not publically stigmatized by the troops then ever before. By flaunting or even acknowledging their being gay I can promise you in most if not all instances no straight male will ever go into a shower with a declared or known homosexual and if the straight male is already in the shower the gay will be told to leave and wait until he is finished. This is happening now and the brass will never be able to stop it any more then they have ever been able to stop the justice system employed by the enlisted ranks for as long as the military has existed. The gays have won nothing here and in fact have locked themselves into a position where they can no longer leave the military if they claim to be gay and must instead now put up with the subtle and sometimes not so subtle harassment these 3% are sure to receive by the remaining 97% of the troops.

36 posted on 04/24/2011 5:03:40 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

How hypocritical “our opponents want to see us dead” but they will not name the opponents — the Muslims!


37 posted on 04/24/2011 1:58:51 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There is a name for this kind of moral desensitizing—it is called Gramscian Communism. It was name after Antonio Gramsci, and Italian Communist who came to the conclusion that the West could not fall to Communism until the social fabric of the nations was undermined.

Yes, television really is the enemy.

38 posted on 04/24/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

As I recall, the Gramscian’s used critical theory and maybe one or two other methods to accomplish the rot needed to foment class warfare. You ever hear about how America is a racist, sexist, patriarchal, homophobic, intolerant country that brought disease and mass murder to the peaceable Indians? Of course you have. THAT is critical theory in a nutshell.


39 posted on 04/24/2011 2:17:08 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: cradle of freedom

Didn’t these people also start the Frankfurt School, which, IIRC, was to teach people the way of spreading the Marxist cultural rot?


40 posted on 04/24/2011 2:23:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am not sure if they worked together on this or if they came upon it separately. I suspect that they worked together in some way as Marxists are in constant conspiratorial communication with each other.


41 posted on 04/24/2011 3:27:58 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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