Posted on 04/23/2011 6:30:27 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer
Don’t be fooled by The Donald. Take it from one who knows: I’m a South Jersey gal who was raised on the outskirts of Atlantic City in the looming shadow of Trump’s towers. All through my childhood, casino developers and government bureaucrats joined hands, raised taxes and made dazzling promises of urban renewal. Then we wised up to the eminent-domain thievery championed by our hometown faux free-marketeers.
America, it’s time you wised up to Donald Trump’s property redistribution racket, too.
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Check out this article I read on GOPUSA. Here is the link:
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/04/22/malkin-donald-trumps-eminent-domain-empire/
Already posted
The long knives from the origin of the “old” GOP establishment are being sharpened!
It’s more important to kill the messenger and CYA than trying to throw an illegal alien in the Whit-Hut off the perch!!
Karl Rovian gave us GWB who thanked us by giving us Barry Soetoro, who they knew was NOT a NBC!!!
As I’ve previously posted:
Number one, Trump cannot ‘take’ anything or invoke eminent domain. This is a government function and while it may be appropriate to be upset with the expanded use of this tactic, it is the governments who are whores for the tax dollars and will use whatever methods they see fit. Without the tax contributions of the developers, property taxes in a lot of areas would be significantly higher for all citizens, so perhaps they should be appreciative of the tax contributions and thousands of jobs the developers are providing.
Number two, There is a large degree of wink and nod deals in nearly every government function. The VOTERS are the ones who tolerate or look the other way when their local government is involved. They are quick to suck up the benefits of the deals, and quick to point fingers at the backroom deals that got it done in the first place. I for one think we must have someone who knows how this machine operates in order to effectively handle it. A naive newbie is going to be eaten alive - a shark will get things done and knows when they are getting screwed.
The local governments wanted the development as much or more than Trump and other developers - it was quid pro quo. To lay all of the actions of local governments at the feet of Trump is a foolish argument and an unenlightened perspective.
Michelle Malkin is the best.
True. I tried looking for it before posting, but nothing showed up. Don't know what I'm doing wrong. Gotta work on that. Sorry.
The biggest problems facing America:
1) UNemployment & how manufacturing jobs stolen by China
2) Foreclosures
3) Food prices
4) Gas prices & how OPEC is fleecing Americans
5) Illegal aliens costing Billions & lowering wage levels
This domain business is nowhere near the top, and even more pertinent, Trump can not decide which property will be acquired under domain rules. I was just tutoring my high school kid on US Constitution and one of the amendments says that the government shall not confiscate private property without JUST COMPENSATION. In other words the government can acquire property so long as proper compensation is paid?
My FRiend, as an attorney who thinks for himself and has no love for the “old” GOP establishment, I am able to look at the relevant body of law (of which Kelo’s the capstone), compare it with the principles of individual rights, including property rights, enshrined in our founding documents, and draw the conclusion, for myself, that Trump is clueless about conservatism, and is far more comfortable with Soros, and the ideology that birthed him, than he would be with Jefferson or Madison. Trump is baiting conservative votes away from true conservative candidates because that serves the purpose of the people he goes to dinner parties with, which happens to include Soros. This is 3D chess, and they are playing for keeps. Beware of hasty conversions and old friends. Or have we learned nothing from Barak “Bill Ayers Who?” Obama?
Post that on one of the 40 or so McDonald's beating threads.
Number two, There is a large degree of wink and nod deals in nearly every government function.
Exactly, and everyone involved should be punished by the legal system or otherwise.
So, despite your list of other woes, that's a big freakin deal in our struggle with the left, because the heart and soul of socialism/Marxism is the abolishing of individual property rights. Any individual claiming to be the conservative savior, who is in practice on the same page as the socialists with regard to property rights, can offer no real resistance to the corruption of our system, and thus all the symptoms you list will continue unabated. The cure is not more of the same, but someone who understands and believes in those things that protect our individual rights to life, liberty, and property as against the collective. Anything less is just anther way to waste a vote.
I did not know Malkin grew up by AC. Maybe I saw her in Ocean City or Somers Point. We are about the same age. Wow, that’s kinda hot.
Trump can NOT unilaterally force any private property to be acquired under eminent domain. If your private property is located where a proposed hi-way will go through, of course the government can force you to sell the property to government. It is asinine to think some individual can hold up the construction of a public facility because that individual wants to hold on to that property.
This is not a left wing or a right wing issue. It is an issue where the ELECTED government officials have the decision making power. I see nothing wrong with that, so long as the government pays fair compensation.
He must be laughing his arse off at how easily he's playing the sheeple. Some political consultant/pollster tells Trump to pander to a specific segment of the conservative base and he'll have them eating out of his hands, which he does. People say what does Trump's rise in the polls say about the rest of the potential Presidential field, I wonder what does it say about the Conservative base that they can be so easily taken in by this charlatan.
I'm glad to hear from an attorney FRiend who also should know that we have an illegal alien and usurper as p-Resident in the Whit-Hut that should have been removed long ago, or better never have had access to that residence at all!
I don't care a whit what Donald Trump's "conservatism" is, but he are able to throw the criminal off his "perch," then I will use Boehner's phrase: "Then he's good enough for ME,"!!
It just seems that the long knives being exposed by the Rino farm members is to cover their own petty asses. Period!!!
You may consider it asinine that such a thing could happen. I am here to tell you that it does. The law is a structure that is populated with a fallible and often perverse humanity. Kelo is bad law; it sanctions what you say is impossible; only the formalities must be maintained. The (new) substance of the law, courtesy of Kelo, is that powerful private individuals can steal specific properties for their own use via the puppetry of local governments, providing the thief offers an illusory promise that they will put the stolen property to good use. Seriously. Look it up. Disbelieve me if you wish. I am an attorney and I’m telling you, your notion of how things work doesn’t square with either my experience of the law, or the large and growing body of commentary on the new and (un)improved doctrine of eminent domain:
“In the end, the United States Supreme Court held, five to four, that the city could take her home and transfer it to a private developer for private profit, despite the fact that the Fifth Amendment only allows government to take property ‘for public use.’” From http://americandreamcoalition.org/landuse/Sandefur.pdf
Also see http://gonzagalawreview.org/files/2011/02/NicholsonMota.pdf
Many other sources abound.
Bottom line, Trump likes Kelo. He has said he agrees with it 100%, and when he explains why, it is entirely in collectivist terms. He is therefore not a conservative, and voting for him is equal to voting for Obama.
I am not much of one for repeating myself in a conversation like this because I charge a lot per hour and can make better use of my time than stating the obvious ad infinitum. If you wish to move the conversation forward by actually addressing the legal reality of Kelo and how Trump is in fact using it, fine. If not, we have reached an impasse and I will not proceed further. The choice is yours.
Peace,
SR
Look, you can’t pick and choose which part of the Constitution you will support and which you will not. That’s what the amendatory process is for.
So three cheers for demanding Obama prove his eligibility, and if he can’t, then it’s the perp walk for him. I’m all for it, and I have the posting history to prove it.
But if you support Trump you are empowering his anti-constitutional penchant for stealing private property for private use via eminent domain. A vote for Trump is a vote for the very heart of the evil that is destroying this country, the socialist/Marxist intent to destroy private property rights for ordinary individuals like Vera Coking et al.
As one who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution, I am willing to take on both fronts. Why aren’t you? Because you’ve been cowed by Rove and the leftists into believing that a real conservative can’t win this election? So it’s OK to trash the part of the Constitution that doesn’t concern you?
Keep this in mind. If you and your Trumpoids make that bed, you’ll have to sleep in it, and all of us who didn’t waste our vote on Trump will be in that bed with you, and we won’t be happy. Don’t be dragging me and my family into a future none of us will like, just because you’re afraid no one but another socialist can win this election.
No kidding. lol. I do have some hope that as people get to know the ideological Trump, they will finally recognize the trap and back away. We are in a heightened state of awareness, and as long as we continue to show the Trump Kool-Aid drinkers what’s really in that Kool-Aid we may win back enough of them to keep Trump from costing us a conservative victory in 2012. There is still time. We have work to do.
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