Posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:46 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
I’m no expert, but I know enough about retouching images, specifically text manipulation. And I am not a birther...
But just through my initial examination of the pdf, it is crystal clear it has been manipulated. For example, when I zoom in using Acrobat Professional, all the text separates ( flashes) in layers. A scanned document will not do that, unless it’s OCR. Also when zoomed in, there is clear white space added around the text. Again, a scan would not add that halo effect to the type. The white space around various text is also inconsistent, meaning that on some words, there is fatter white space around the word as though someone used a 1-2px. eraser inconsistently.
This would have been produced on a typewriter. The halo effect around the type is clearly not from a typewriter.
There is something wrong with this document, folks.
The hand written date on the bottom (8-7-61) by Stanley looks very similar to the hand written date on the Nordykes birth certificate.
What say you?
I checked out the PDF — in Adobe Illustrator, just as you did. You are so right: if this document is a scan or a photocopy of an original, there would not be any isolatable, multiple elements in it.
But release the document's clipping mask in Adobe Illustrator, and it turns out that most of the type, and even parts of signatures, can be moved right off the document. Clearly, this can be no scan nor photocopy!
Plus the "security paper" used for the alleged copy shows white space behind where the moved text was. As if preexisting elements had been "whited out" to accommodate new text.
This document is definitely suspicious. I strongly doubt it is what it purports to be....
Actually, it looks like a transparent forgery to me....
Can't Obama find more skilled people to create his fakes?
Not once you enter the PDF world. :).
I just opened a text to PDF document in Adobe Illustrator. There were no layers in the original, just text processing.
In Illustator there was Layer 1 which included a layer Group comprised of a layer for each line of text, some path and clipping path layers, like we see in the Obama doc. All of this separating, grouping and layering was done by the software.
Not similar enough to warrant concern.
Your ping dovetails with this same subject that had just caught my eye on the first thread (now approaching 1000 posts) on this morning’s BC release news:
CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts
See exchange between PowerPro & mike182d in posts 860 (initial post by graphic artist PowerPro), 875, 887
Remember, he was born in 1961. So there wouldn’t be the high-tech systems to print a birth certificate.
Back then, you actually used a typewriter and a blank form.
CORRECTION to my previous post:
Post #849 !!! was initial post by PowerPro (see first).
But isn’t the original document contents treated as basically a single image, and therefore a single layer? I am not an expert on it, which is why I am asking.
It's plausible to me that the stamp only had the first three digits of the year and the last digit had to be written in. It would be a way to make the stamp last longer. It had rotating sections for the month, the two digits of the day and for the year. So they could get one for the 1960's (1960-1969), or they could get one for the 20th century or some period longer than 10 years (195-199). Just a thought.
Thanks very much, thouworm!!!!
aphid opened it and sure enough, it’s layered.
There is something wrong with this document, folks.
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And this is a surprise? Nothing he says or produces will convince me of anything. He’s had 3 years to clear things up, instead he used those years to fabricate evidence.
just wondering.. do you think this document could now be used to free that poor army doctor?-
Is this font one that was used in typewriters available in 1961.
ping to #43
I'll assume you are talking about the Nordyke certs? You do realize that the Nordyke certs were requested and issued in 1966, right? And that Obama's was just done, in 2011? So of course the Registrar is a different person. And perhaps they don't have the Director of Health sign it any more. A lot can change in 50 years.
Thank you.
BUMP !
Where’s Buckhead ? Tanker ? ;)
That would be standard for going paperless, yes. I think that's quite possible, depending on the IT for the office.
When they need to produce an official document, they assemble it from previously archived electronic images.
I think I'm with you, if this is a single document, scanned, given a unique ID and stored on an image server. No need to assemble in this case, just provide a pdf or print of the file. The date on this is April 25, so perhaps the whole thing was done electronically - the pdf sent posted on the gov website.
The whole thing looks weird. Why is the template background image not flat??
Looks to be taken from a book or binder of other COLB.
And I cant think of a reason why they’d place dates on it or the cert. stamp.
Curiouser and curiouser.
“just wondering.. do you think this document could now be used to free that poor army doctor?-”
I would like to believe so but I have no way of knowing.
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