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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Once mass immigration ends???

What makes you think it will end? Despite there being many in the House on record as supporting a cut back in legal immigration, there is absolutely no talk of pushing for it in the talk about immigration reform. In fact, most of the immigration reforms that are put forth by the leaders of both parties would result in increased legal immigration.

Do any of the potential Republican candidates for 2012 support ending mass immigration? Fred Thompson had the best immigration plan in 2008, but his late-starting campaign was doomed, and unfortunately we got no real contrast with Obama from McCain.

I don’t get what you are saying about Mexicans taking on the politics of the state they are in. Most Hispanics in Texas, a conservative red state, vote Democratic. Other than a few Florida races, and maybe Pataki once in NY, are there examples of Republicans carrying the Hispanic vote in any significant statewide race? Are Mexicans in Texas more conservative and Republican than those in California? Yes, they are, but again, a majority still favor the Democrats.

I do agree with you, and applaud you though for recognizing that, perhaps paradoxically, it would take ending mass immigration for immigrant communities to cease voting Democratic. Initially any successful campaign to cut immigration would result in a huge drop (in already low) Hispanic support for the GOP as a result of demogoguery. But if immigration were held low for decades, then eventually what you say might come to pass.

It should also be noted that the last mass wave of immigration came to an end, obviously. This is an inconvenient fact that proponents of mass immigration never address when making their absurd ‘we’ve been here before’ arguments. In fact, they have the nerve to say history proved the restrictionists wrong, when in fact the opposite is true. The restrictionists won last time, and we got over 40 years of low-moderate immigration. The last thing they were proven to be was wrong.


44 posted on 04/30/2011 8:16:56 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

One thing has changed, and it should not be underestimated.

It has long been known that when a country reaches a particular economic plateau, a standard of living, unique to that country, suddenly its birth rate drops from 6 or 8 children per family, to just about 2.1 to 2.3, which is sustainability.

Up until a month ago, when several Arab countries went to sustainability, Mexico was the most recent country to do so. This means that the demographic pressure for Mexicans to come to the US is dropping rapidly, which is a multiplying factor with economic incentives of a better life, here.

Young parents, or young couples who wanted children, were one of the largest sub-groups of Mexicans who came to the US, wanting a better life for their children. But fewer children means less incentive.

That this is caused by standard of living demographics is proven in an odd way. Mexicans in Mexico are now at their countries plateau, but Mexicans who came to the US now have the highest birthrate among Mexicans. Because they are still below the US economic plateau, if not the Mexican one.


45 posted on 04/30/2011 9:44:03 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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